GeordieVillan Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Feels like he’s played the full 90+ mins in every game this season, while everyone else around him and behind him has been out at various times. He must be knackered. Frustrating that he got the card and misses 2 games, but if the wheels come off now, it certainly won’t be his fault. Similar to McGinn against Spurs - these guys have had great seasons, playing a lot of football, but they are human beings and will make mistakes or lose control. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 3 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: The booking was always going to happen within next few games. May as well get it out the way so he’s back with us for the final push in those 4 games we have him back for. Bookings get reset after today’s game. He had 30 seconds not to get booked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 26 minutes ago, KentVillan said: While we're beating up on him, something I just spotted... Dougie has the most Villa Premier League appearances (171) of any player in the current squad, ahead of McGinn (163). And he's second on overall Villa appearances, as McGinn has a Championship season, and Mings surprisingly has fewer Villa apps despite the extra season. And he's still only 25. Think we underrate his contribution sometimes. He has a very tough job to do in the middle there with Kamara out. No one is questioning his ability or how good he has been for us... but that yellow card, 10 seconds of the allocated stoppage time left to play and he leaves his foot in like that... it's beyond moronic. Perhaps Emery should have subbed him (especially as he got away with one a few minutes earlier) but the player shouldn't be that stupid, especially that late in the game what was he hoping to achieve such a careless foul that late on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 18 minutes ago, david-avfc said: No one is questioning his ability or how good he has been for us... but that yellow card, 10 seconds of the allocated stoppage time left to play and he leaves his foot in like that... it's beyond moronic. Perhaps Emery should have subbed him (especially as he got away with one a few minutes earlier) but the player shouldn't be that stupid, especially that late in the game what was he hoping to achieve such a careless foul that late on I don't think he was deliberately leaving his foot in. I think he was genuinely trying to win the ball back and get 3 pts. It's on Emery really to make the call there - that feels like a managerial mistake to me. But the sides above us would have a ready-made replacement on the bench, and we don't really. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrBlack Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, KentVillan said: I don't think he was deliberately leaving his foot in. I think he was genuinely trying to win the ball back and get 3 pts. It's on Emery really to make the call there - that feels like a managerial mistake to me. But the sides above us would have a ready-made replacement on the bench, and we don't really. He absolutely was trying to get the ball back. He thought he could win it and if he didn't then the game was going to end in a draw. That foul was not a booking anyway. The ref ignored Ajer for 97 minutes despite committing more fouls and more cynical ones than that one from Luiz. And he needed a rest anyway. He's been off the boil for a few games so I don't think he'll be especially missed compared with when he was on top form, and it may give him chance to get back to that form. He'll still be playing 90 minutes a week anyway because of the Europa conference games, so this isn't the disaster it could have been, and he'll probably learn from this that picking up some of the more stupid bookings he did earlier in the season will come back to bite him. Edited April 7 by MrBlack 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 14 minutes ago, MrBlack said: He absolutely was trying to get the ball back. He thought he could win it and if he didn't then the game was going to end in a draw. That foul was not a booking anyway. The ref ignored Ajer for 97 minutes despite committing more fouls and more cynical ones than that one from Luiz. And he needed a rest anyway. He's been off the boil for a few games so I don't think he'll be especially missed compared with when he was on top form, and it may give him chance to get back to that form. He'll still be playing 90 minutes a week anyway because of the Europa conference games, so this isn't the disaster it could have been, and he'll probably learn from this that picking up some of the more stupid bookings he did earlier in the season will come back to bite him. Think it probably was a booking technically, but agree with the rest of your post... refs are inconsistent, and Dougie definitely needs a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Please could someone clarify for me, so this booking means Dougie cannot play in the next 2 premier league games, I.e. is still ok to play against Lille on Thursday? Or does it mean the next two games I.e Lille (h) and Arsenal (a)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 4 minutes ago, delboy54 said: Please could someone clarify for me, so this booking means Dougie cannot play in the next 2 premier league games, I.e. is still ok to play against Lille on Thursday? Or does it mean the next two games I.e Lille (h) and Arsenal (a)? He will miss the Arsenal and Bournemouth premier league matches and will be able to play vs Lille... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 14 hours ago, MrBlack said: He absolutely was trying to get the ball back. He thought he could win it and if he didn't then the game was going to end in a draw. That foul was not a booking anyway. The ref ignored Ajer for 97 minutes despite committing more fouls and more cynical ones than that one from Luiz. And he needed a rest anyway. He's been off the boil for a few games so I don't think he'll be especially missed compared with when he was on top form, and it may give him chance to get back to that form. He'll still be playing 90 minutes a week anyway because of the Europa conference games, so this isn't the disaster it could have been, and he'll probably learn from this that picking up some of the more stupid bookings he did earlier in the season will come back to bite him. A lot of criticism of him yesterday for getting the yellow, which I thought was very harsh. The ball was defintely there to be won, it was a challenge after playing 97 minutes. With tired legs it's easy to get fractionally wrong which unfortunately he did. If it happened in the first half I doubt it would even have been given a yellow. It's hard for him to be as effective as he was before Kamara got injured. Kamara was the primary defensive one of the pair since he's been out although it had been shared with McGinn he does have that extra responsibility. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, AlwaysAVFC said: A lot of criticism of him yesterday for getting the yellow, which I thought was very harsh. The ball was defintely there to be won, it was a challenge after playing 97 minutes. With tired legs it's easy to get fractionally wrong which unfortunately he did. If it happened in the first half I doubt it would even have been given a yellow. It's hard for him to be as effective as he was before Kamara got injured. Kamara was the primary defensive one of the pair since he's been out although it had been shared with McGinn he does have that extra responsibility. Spot on. In the games against ambition-less opposition he copes without Kamara. But against a side trying to attack he's always exposed and whilst he gets away with it some times it's defintely putting more strain and demand on him. Hopefully we get to see Tim given some game time now and he takes the opportunity so that when Luiz comes back he's trusted to play alongside him and has the confidence to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 Overrated 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 56 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Overrated We need a face palm reaction 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 19 hours ago, GeordieVillan said: Feels like he’s played the full 90+ mins in every game this season, while everyone else around him and behind him has been out at various times. He must be knackered. Frustrating that he got the card and misses 2 games, but if the wheels come off now, it certainly won’t be his fault. Similar to McGinn against Spurs - these guys have had great seasons, playing a lot of football, but they are human beings and will make mistakes or lose control. It's not out of the question to say that exhaustion played a role in his decision to stick his foot out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: Overrated Dougie is Unai’s go to guy. He has played more minutes than anyone. I trust unais opinion more than anyone’s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted April 7 VT Supporter Share Posted April 7 Doug's been pretty underwhelming for a while now. Still, this was a bad time to get the suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 3 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Overrated Our best midfielder. Lock him down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 His last month hasn't been great to many mistakes and a few brain fades and needs to stand up but more when the pressure is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I think he needs a bit of a break tbh. Plus he can go full tilt against Lille. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 5 hours ago, Mr_Dogg said: Our best midfielder. Lock him down! McGinn and Kamara are better. Luiz is overrated on here. Good player but we treat him like he’s a world beater when I don’t think he is tbh. He’s been average a lot this season in matches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr_Dogg Posted April 8 Popular Post Share Posted April 8 4 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: McGinn and Kamara are better. Luiz is overrated on here. Good player but we treat him like he’s a world beater when I don’t think he is tbh. He’s been average a lot this season in matches. I disagree. The only issue is he is overworked. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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