Teale's 'tache Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, ramshackler said: Watching that video tells me that Burnley desperately need a decent left back, everything came down that side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, supermon said: at £8 million this is pretty excessive for a 33 year old, i think £4-£5 million would have been a better reflection. Just hope we see some outgoings now. I can't believe folk are kicking up a fuss over £8m beans. It's the new £3m. It ain't our money so **** it.. sign all the players.. spend all the monies! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, sne said: U mean Freidel right? Given was absolute gash. Played 5 games in total for us after his first season because Paul Lambert was afraid of senior players. Was one of our best players under McLeish and did well on that run to FA Cup final before the actual final 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, Zatman said: because Paul Lambert was afraid of senior players. Was one of our best players under McLeish and did well on that run to FA Cup final before the actual final He still had great reflexes but he literally didn't move, at all. Doubt he could reach the cross bar if he had managed to jump, which he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sne said: U mean Freidel right? Given was absolute gash. Played 5 games in total for us after his first season Friedal aswell, but he came in - Given was solid in that season, especially in our FA Cup run. Edited July 31, 2019 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 One positive of signing Heaton is that it puts the keeper signing to rest and let's us move on. We can now move on and concentrate with other signings now, like a striker- Maupay please now . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Really not sure on this. Why spend 9 mil on Heaton on 1 maybe 2 year contract? Butland or Ethridge would be better options at 20 mil for longer contracts and younger keepers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez1974 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Great move. Good keeper, experienced, and in todays market, a good price - plus he's 'homegrown' from a squad perspective. The Friedel/Given comparisons are inevitable - but Given was very good for us for a year - it's just that some prick gave him a 5 year contract at 35. This guy is 33 (so 2 years younger than Given) so a 3 year deal with an option is fine with me. Friedel was 37 when he joined, and he moved to Spurs 3 years later! I understand that the likes of Butland might make more long term sense, being younger, but I am not convinced he is better than Heaton, and we can't just keep spending (can we?) and saving £12m on a keeper might allow us to buy that additional striker we all seem to think we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozvillafan Posted July 31, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 Is a good keeper going to make the difference between relegation and staying up? Definitely. Is Heaton better than Steer? Yes. So is it a good transfer at £8m? Damn right it is! .... I'm not sure what the fuss over price is all about. 12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, gordy said: Really not sure on this. Why spend 9 mil on Heaton on 1 maybe 2 year contract? Butland or Ethridge would be better options at 20 mil for longer contracts and younger keepers Not at this present time they wouldn't. We already have enough young inexperienced keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Very very pleased. Heaton is a significantly better Keeper than Steer ( who I like, and who will be fine as Number 2). This purchase will save us at least half a dozen Points this Season. The Fee is ( therefore) effectively irrelevant, as is his Age. Great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I loved Friedal. The last solid commanding keeper we have had for a long time. We've not really had anyone like him since really, hopefully that changes now though. Personally Bosnich was my most fav keeper, but I get what your saying, Fred was a very good keeper for us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I can't believe folk are kicking up a fuss over £8m beans. It's the new £3m. It ain't our money so **** it.. sign all the players.. spend all the monies! People are expressing their opinion on part of a rumoured transfer. Most people have given some reasoning as well. I don't know why so many people are kicking up a fuss at others questioning a fee. The whole 'it ain't our money' line is bollocks. It isn't our money, but we all know that our new, savvy owners will have set limits on what we can spend, and therefore if the argument is that we've spent 2-3m over, that will have been 2-3m that we could have put towards another potential signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I can't believe folk are kicking up a fuss over £8m beans. It's the new £3m. It ain't our money so **** it.. sign all the players.. spend all the monies! Absolutely this. If he helps keep us up then it's money well spent. It's that simple. He's an obvious upgrade on Steer, adds experience to a relatively inexperienced side and is by all accounts decent at organising a defence. Maybe this is a stop-gap signing and we're planning on getting Butland in a couple of years once his contract runs out? Absolute no brainer at the cost £8m. Edited July 31, 2019 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Friedal aswell, but he came in - Given was solid in that season, especially in our FA Cup run. Number of games played and goals conceded says different but we digress. Hope Heaton works out, short term I think this will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Dave-R said: Personally Bosnich was my most fav keeper, but I get what your saying, Fred was a very good keeper for us. Yep, Bosnich was our most solid before Friedal. Can't think of many good ones in between. Obviously we had Schmeichal and James etc. But Bosnich was great until he f****d himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Assume this has already been posted but if not, The Heat (is) on 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rob182 said: People are expressing their opinion on part of a rumoured transfer. Most people have given some reasoning as well. I don't know why so many people are kicking up a fuss at others questioning a fee. The whole 'it ain't our money' line is bollocks. It isn't our money, but we all know that our new, savvy owners will have set limits on what we can spend, and therefore if the argument is that we've spent 2-3m over, that will have been 2-3m that we could have put towards another potential signing. Which is fair enough so long as those same people take the time to appreciate that isn't how markets work. We can't just tell Burnley what price they must sell him at, we have no leverage in this situation. They have something we want and we must pay what it costs to get it. If it's either that or £20m to Stoke for Butland, which gives us more flexibility moving forward this summer? Edited July 31, 2019 by dont_do_it_doug. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rob182 said: People are expressing their opinion on part of a rumoured transfer. Most people have given some reasoning as well. I don't know why so many people are kicking up a fuss at others questioning a fee. The whole 'it ain't our money' line is bollocks. It isn't our money, but we all know that our new, savvy owners will have set limits on what we can spend, and therefore if the argument is that we've spent 2-3m over, that will have been 2-3m that we could have put towards another potential signing. Someone got out of bed wrong this morning? There is no problem in expressing opinions.. equally some of us are not seeing what all the fuss is about. You'd think we had just splashed £25m on him with some of the reactions.. okay that's probably a touch of Hysteria there.. but it's not as bad as people are making out imo. Debate is good and no one is saying it's not. The sign all the players stuff is light hearted bantz that is reflecting the crazy transfer window we are witnessing. It's an on running joke that has been posted by many posters in the threads over this window - again, all tongue in cheek stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Heaton for £8m or Butland for £20m+? No brainer that Heaton is the better option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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