Popular Post nick76 Posted June 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Think he was referring to the BLM movement. They have proved to be violent in numerous occasions. Racism is sickening, but personally i am scared about the people in BLM. They are filled with hatred. Not saying all of them, but a lot of them are violent people, a lot. Echoing extreme right wing and Trump rather than all the peaceful protestors......disgraceful! Edited June 14, 2020 by nick76 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 2 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: 2 players tested positive in latest round of testing, 1 from Norwich who played in a friendly against Spurs on Friday night. Just goes to show how quickly this could potentially spread across the division. One game at a time, just get the win by any means necessary against Sheff Utd. Who knows if the restart will be as successful as it has in Germany. We have to have the mentality that we might only get one game before it gets called off again. I suspect teams will lose key players in the build up to games unexpectedly and preparations will be damaged. Praying SJG & SJM are fine for every game. After the events of the last two weekend finishing this season is the least of the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, MotoMkali said: Mate if you can't support black lives matter then you shouldn't get to watch football. I'm a Conservative, but it is clear that black people are not treated to the same standard as white people. The same goes for any ethnic minority for that matter. White people are 5 times less likely to get arrested for committing the same crimes as black people even though they offend at roughly the same rate. Racism has no place in football and if you want to express hate in place for joy then I'm sure I'm not alone in saying, we'd rather not have you. Go support Chelsea I'm sure you'd have a lot in common with the fans. Also what do you think are far left? Anything left of the nazis? Or just centrists? Out of interest you got a link for that? I completely agree with what you're sort of saying, but I'm allergic to statistics from the thin air. And I'd be amazed if that was correct. Generally, where ever you go criminal acts are linked with level of wealth and education. Pull relative percentages and I'm baffled if different colours offend at the same rate. Simply because education and wealth distribution isn't remotely even. Edited June 14, 2020 by KenjiOgiwara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Out of interest you got a link for that? I completely agree with what you're sort of saying, but I'm allergic to statistics from the thin air. And I'd be amazed if that was correct. Generally, where ever you go criminal acts are linked with level of wealth and education. Pull relative percentages and I'm baffled if different colours offend at the same rate. Simply because education and wealth distribution isn't remotely even. This is a statistic I read back in 2016 which also means I can't find the original source so the data will likely changed slightly but according to gov.uk black people get arrested 3.5 times more frequently than white people. Rather than the 5% that I quoted, although that could just be misremembering the statistic. The main issue is most of the actual data for offences committed (but not arrested for comes from America). I imagine it would be similar in the UK especially for things like drug violations. In the USA 6.6% of white adolescents sell drugs compared to 5% of black adolescents (according to analysis of the national survey of drug use and health in 2012). The same survey concluded that white and black people use drugs at about the same rate. I couldn't find statistics on general crimes probably because drug use is minor enough people generally won't lie about it. I couldn't find any post on the gov.uk website about offences so I can't find an exact replica for the statistic. You are right to question the statistic but I couldn't find the original so you will have to put up with what I could find in 5-10 minutes. Edit: Wealth inequality is a big factor but you have to remember there are a lot of poor white people as well and especially outside the big cities there are very minorities so things like drug and petty crimes will be much mor elikely to be committed by white people. Edited June 14, 2020 by MotoMkali Replying to another point in the previous post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 We really are not fancied to stay up are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: We really are not fancied to stay up are we? Worst defence in the division along with possibly the hardest fixtures left out of the bottom few I can see why nobody fancies us to stay up. If we can beat Sheffield and get something from Chelsea I think we will be in with a great chance of staying up but if we look anything like we did against Leicester there's no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, holteend1982 said: Worst defence in the division along with possibly the hardest fixtures left out of the bottom few I can see why nobody fancies us to stay up. If we can beat Sheffield and get something from Chelsea I think we will be in with a great chance of staying up but if we look anything like we did against Leicester there's no chance. Agreed. If we continue being as shit as we were before the break then smith needs to be sacked end of the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 12 points from 10 games keeps up. Not easy but not impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 48 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: We really are not fancied to stay up are we? Can’t really blame pundits/press for that. On last form guides we were appalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomav84 Posted June 15, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2020 On 13/06/2020 at 23:51, Shaw_nuff said: The Prem can shove it. Endorsing those far-left Representatives for Wellingborough Black Lies Matter is the last straw. No more f&*%s to give. i just had to bite on Facebook at someone that commented "I hope the players will have names on the backs of their shirts". It's the first time i have bitten, whereas i've managed to restrain myself previously, because i know how toxic social media is like. I dont expect such intolerance on here though, and the survey prior to the election had red vs blue as pretty much 50/50. but this movement is nothing to do with left vs right. it's simply right vs wrong. one of our own was the victim of monkey chants in bulgaria...you remember that right? my boss in the US is black and detailed some of the things he went through growing up. he was pulled over by police over a dozen times before his 18th birthday. i doubt even some of the greyer folk on here have been pulled over that many times in their lifetime. it's time that people woke up and realised the injustices that STILL exist today and fortunately it seems like people are starting to take a stand against it. so having BLM on the backs of shirts certainly gets my full support. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Hearts are suing the SPFL over relegation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lexicon Posted June 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2020 On 14/06/2020 at 12:43, nick76 said: Echoing extreme right wing and Trump rather than all the peaceful protestors......disgraceful! They inspired me to change my avatar 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Hearts are suing the SPFL over relegation Rightly so. You can't change the rules of engagement after everyone has started using them without agreement from everyone it affects. A farce to end the season early for anyone. A farce to carry on under different conditions and laws. What's the rush.... oh yeah, money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) Tranmere Rovers are considering suing the EFL over relegation also. They've had to make 20 members of their staff redundant due to the vote to end the season on PPG. Quote Palios was forced to send out around 20 redundancy notices to Tranmere staff following last week's announcement that the club would be relegated from League One on a points-per-game basis. Tranmere claim it is a decision that has cost them £1m in lost revenue. The Prenton Park outfit were just three points off safety with a game in hand and their sense of injustice has been further fuelled by the fact they had won their last three matches. That's a massive loss for a club in League One. I hope they sue those greedy ghouls in the EFL. Edited June 15, 2020 by The_Steve 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, The_Steve said: Tranmere Rovers are considering suing the EFL over relegation also. They've had to make 20 members of their staff redundant due to the vote to end the season on PPG. That's a massive loss for a club in League One. I hope they sue those greedy ghouls in the EFL. Won three on the trot, momentum in their favour and a game in hand as well. Further proof integrity means sweet F A in the modern game. I really hope Tranmere succeed with their legal challenge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Here's a great write-up on the situation and the unjust nature of PPG. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Every time the media (e.g. BBC and Sky) mention the last game played in the Premier League do they really have to keep mentioning the scoreline?! Grrrr. Annoying! And accompanied by a word such as "hammered", "thrashed", "destroyed", etc, etc... Thanks so much for constantly reminding me, rather than putting 'The last game in the Premier League was Leicester v Aston Villa on 9th March. : ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 minute ago, robby b said: Every time the media (e.g. BBC and Sky) mention the last game played in the Premier League do they really have to keep mentioning the scoreline?! Grrrr. Annoying! And accompanied by a word such as "hammered", "thrashed", "destroyed", etc, etc... Thanks so much for constantly reminding me, rather than putting 'The last game in the Premier League was Leicester v Aston Villa on 9th March. : ( I'm actually hoping that motivates our players that it is being thrown in their faces. That people have already written us off. Hopefully also that opposition team under estimate us. I live in hope! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, nick76 said: I'm actually hoping that motivates our players that it is being thrown in their faces. That people have already written us off. Hopefully also that opposition team under estimate us. I live in hope! Good point. I hope that happens, fingers crossed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, nick76 said: I'm actually hoping that motivates our players that it is being thrown in their faces. That people have already written us off. Hopefully also that opposition team under estimate us. I live in hope! I think it will. The mentality of a sportsperson is to win at every opportunity and they will hate being so widely written off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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