nick76 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, danceoftheshamen said: That Arsenal game 100% proved what a home crowd can do for a team. The two players in the wall thing too for another of their "goals"...# Shocking I know....we are in the bottom six for a reason this season, we are poor but I expected that and as many of us have said we were aiming for 17th at the beginning of the season so the season has panned out as expected mostly. I still think if there hadnt been the virus, we wouldve ended up safe (which again is debatable on this website). In terms of VAR though we have suffered from it far than we have benefited from it. I know it cant be perfect but jeez it's far from that and we may have lost points from it this season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, The_Steve said: This is demonstrably unfair on Hearts As it says might be a reprieve as they want to restructure the league Same going on in England in lower leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The_Steve said: This is demonstrably unfair on Hearts Edited May 18, 2020 by Nabby double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, The_Steve said: This is demonstrably unfair on Hearts As it says might be a reprieve as they want to restructure the league Same going on in England in lower leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted May 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, danceoftheshamen said: That Arsenal game 100% proved what a home crowd can do for a team. The two players in the wall thing too for another of their "goals"...# Shocking i went to bournemouth v man u this season and the crowd was quite lively by their standards...they won 1-0. we wont have a chance to have that effect on the team when we play utd it's a complete farce but i've long accepted that regardless of the decision, it will be unfair on someone. it is completely impossible to make it 100% fair. void season = unfair on liverpool who have near enough won the league; unfair on teams that were among favourites for relegation in august who find themselves safe (palace, sheff utd) PPG = doesnt take into account games still to be played, where history tells us that freak results and great escapes are highly likely - unfair on current bottom 3 behind closed doors = doesnt give teams with big, lively home crowds the chance to cheer their team to victory (only really unfair on us and west ham...not many of the remaining clubs in and around the relegation zone - hence the most logical option in the eyes of the PL) from what we've been reading these are the only options...the whole "no relegation but promote 2 teams" doesnt appear to have ever been a genuine consideration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I'd be quite happy with Villa being labelled as 'relegated' only to then appear again next season in an expanded premier league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Damn. This will be the reality if the season ends. It won't be cancelled, it would be stopped and relegations will happen no matter what.. Edited May 18, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshharris12 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Keep saying it people need to get to grips with it we are down on ppg structure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, joshharris12 said: Keep saying it people need to get to grips with it we are down on ppg structure YES. Idiotic fans who keep riding on the void the season train really are only saying please relegate us. Finishing the season is our only chance surviving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, joshharris12 said: Keep saying it people need to get to grips with it we are down on ppg structure Yep this is what i think happens in england too as cant see us being able to play 10 games. So we will be down. But boy will the pl have a massive compensation pay out to pay us Bournemouth and norwich. Also i note the EFL want to do a wage cap. That is going to be absolutely impossible for relegated teams. I fwe are unfairly relegated then we shouldn't have wage caps or ffp restrictions for one whole season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 This current Villa squad should be promotion favourites if the PL decide to play God and relegate us with a game in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Yep this is what i think happens in england too as cant see us being able to play 10 games. So we will be down. But boy will the pl have a massive compensation pay out to pay us Bournemouth and norwich. Also i note the EFL want to do a wage cap. That is going to be absolutely impossible for relegated teams. I fwe are unfairly relegated then we shouldn't have wage caps or ffp restrictions for one whole season Surely you can only implement a wage cap for future contracts and as current contracts can’t be amended. If it’s a team wage cap, again it would have to be a step down as contracts expire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazmonkey Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Looking at the Hearts situation, they had played 30 games like most of the league so I can see how PPG fits in. The other two on 29 it didn't really effect them at they were midtable. We have a game in hand i think this will be a major issue for using PPG when deciding who get relegated if they go down this route...would a win keep us up on PPG???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Again, the fact that the PL is it's own entity, semi-detached from the Championship and the lower leagues, and the enormous amount of money involved means that how other countries handles their leagues doesn't really apply to PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, nick76 said: Surely you can only implement a wage cap for future contracts and as current contracts can’t be amended. If it’s a team wage cap, again it would have to be a step down as contracts expire. Their plan is a wage cap and if you go over it when coming down they limited how much you can pay players who sign Essentially they want to get rid of parachute payments as they want the cash distributed how ever how you do that now with the gulf in money between the 2 leagues I don't know.It's not as if the teams coming down just go back up , some of the clubs with the most money issues in the EFL are former PL clubs who went down and have struggled to recover.If you have a wage budget of say 50 mil and go down with no parachute payment you would have £3mil in tv cash coming in plus ticket sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, sne said: Again, the fact that the PL is it's own entity, semi-detached from the Championship and the lower leagues, and the enormous amount of money involved means that how other countries handles their leagues doesn't really apply to PL. Hearts threatening legal action following the teams from France who were relegated on PPG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Nabby said: Hearts threatening legal action following the teams from France who were relegated on PPG I've no idea about the money involved in Scottish footy but I imagine relegation doesn't mean a £150m-£200m blow like it does in the PL. Any team relegated this season will rightly make it a legal nightmare for the PL. And you can bet us, West Ham and the others have much more expensive lawyers than Hearts or Amiens. (Granted so does the PL and the FA.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mjvilla Posted May 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2020 55 minutes ago, villalad21 said: YES. Idiotic fans who keep riding on the void the season train really are only saying please relegate us. Finishing the season is our only chance surviving. Yes, idiotic fans who are putting health of everyone above all else. Bloody idiots. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Quote We have stated from the outset that we don’t believe it is right that any club should be unfairly penalised because of the Covid-19 pandemic. It was previously indicated that league reconstruction would not generate enough support to pass a vote between member clubs. In recent days a number of positive talks have been held with both the SPFL and member clubs and this topic is currently being revisited. Hearts will shortly submit a member’s resolution that we believe is a pragmatic solution to the issues the game currently faces and a way forward that the clubs can unite behind. It is our belief that this resolution, if supported, will provide an opportunity to avoid disproportionately disadvantaging - financially and otherwise - any club. This is possibly the final chance for our game to stand together, protect each other and not only survive but flourish in the aftermath of this terrible pandemic. Players from across all leagues have shown a desire for reconstruction and having already received support from some clubs we are hopeful that this resolution can positively progress Scottish football. As previously intimated the club has been taking legal advice throughout this process and are continuing to do so. We hope that the resolution being prepared will avoid the need to go down this route. Legal action would be both time consuming and expensive. However the cost to the club of relegation would outweigh these considerations. To our supporters, we thank you for showing patience and continuing to back the club. We will continue to fight against what we believe is an unjust outcome Hearts statement Edited May 18, 2020 by The_Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mjvilla said: Yes, idiotic fans who are putting health of everyone above all else. Bloody idiots. No one is suggesting to play until it's safe to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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