Kiwivillan Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Yet again another weird synchronicity, the world is really small, moment tonight in my local pub in Auckland, NZ. Chatting for a while with a French couple on holiday and the daughters Dad. Dad and daughter from Strasbourg. I ask the boyfriend do you like football he says yes Barcelona and my local team from Normandy you've probably never heard of called Caen. Me: OMG Frederic Guilbert!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Patience. Guilbert chance will come. Either through injuries/suspension or in Cup games. It's up to him to grab it when it comes. I 100 % agree with Smith here. Have to earn you're right into the team. Heaton didn't earn his place over Steer, he was just given it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Rob182 said: Heaton didn't earn his place over Steer, he was just given it. Well, yea. Fair point. Heaton is not exactly a kid though and got tons of Premier League experience. So it's not exactly the same thing. But i wouldn't actually been against Steer starting the season as 1st choice, i feel like he's earned it. But Smith made a decision. Edited August 23, 2019 by villalad21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carewjust4u Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 5 hours ago, hippo said: So Guilbert didn't get many assists whilst playing for a struggling team ? - sure he will get loads for us... It's about the system that the team operates, bottom teams in the prem have evolved to play short-passing build-up football...including the promoted teams. Caen on the otherhand were a far cry from this; "Caen have made the second most long passes this season and average the third longest passes in the league with Strasbourg and Dijon both marginally ahead of them in these categories." So in my opinion you can't judge a player with the attacking and crossing abilities in a team that played for arguably the worst team in one of Europe's poorer teams, especially when that team is playing long hoof ball....Guilbert is the superior footballer and will be the starting full-back before the end of December i'm sure of it. https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2019/feature-why-caen-are-the-worst-team-in-ligue-1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 5 hours ago, hippo said: So Guilbert didn't get many assists whilst playing for a struggling team ? - sure he will get loads for us... I see what you did there....like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Well, yea. Fair point. Heaton is not exactly a kid though and got tons of Premier League experience. So it's not exactly the same thing. But i wouldn't actually been against Steer starting the season as 1st choice, i feel like he's earned it. But Smith made a decision. Targett could have come in for Taylor, in the same way Heaton did. But yeah, I get the point you're making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Rob182 said: I was just looked at his WhoScored page, because I keep seeing people saying he was our MOTM, but I didn't feel like that at the game. WhoScored says he had 11 crosses, and of them 4 found a teammate. I feel like that, alone, adds context to this 'he was the highest rated player' line that keeps coming up Elmo's defence. Obviously, 7 of his crosses not finding a teammate doesn't mean they were bad crosses, as they could have just been defended well. However, my feeling from the game was that a good portion of his crosses were floated into a deep area (or one or two went out of play), whereas I'd prefer them to be whipped with pace into a more dangerous area. You've mentioned the two that went to Taylor and Grealish, but the one that keeps sticking in my mind (maybe just because I was hoping it would come to something), was the one that went to McGinn, but because it was so deep and floated, McGinn's header had little power and was an easy catch from the keeper. I think Elmo will keep his place against Everton, and I won't begrudge him starting. However, I would like to see whether Guilbert can look as pivotal in the Prem as he looked for us in pre-season. I like Elmo and think he's probabaly been one of our most underated players over the last couple of seasons, but I was surprised by the praise he was getting after the Bournmouth game too. Maybe we were influenced by the people sitting around us, but he seemed a bit slow and sloppy to me at the time. Stats have this annoying habit of proving me wrong. I was sure Guilbert was going to be our starting RB this year and I really liked the look of him in pre-season, but I guess competition for places is good, last year was the complete opposite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: I like Elmo and think he's probabaly been one of our most underated players over the last couple of seasons, but I was surprised by the praise he was getting after the Bournmouth game too. Maybe we were influenced by the people sitting around us, but he seemed a bit slow and sloppy to me at the time. Stats have this annoying habit of proving me wrong. I was sure Guilbert was going to be our starting RB this year and I really liked the look of him in pre-season, but I guess competition for places is good, last year was the complete opposite. One thing for certain, is that in both games he's had a sloppy moment that's resulted in a dangerous chance for the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 On 18/08/2019 at 17:47, Zatman said: Guilbert will start next week and be brilliant. I know this because ai am removing him from my Fantasy Football team Suppose I got one part correct 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 23, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 23, 2019 39 minutes ago, Zatman said: Suppose I got one part correct Well done mate, hope you get the second one correct as well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Weird that Smith has chosen Guilbert over Elmo. Does he not go on WhoScored.com? (Now prove to everyone that he’s made the right decision, Freddie!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Pushes hard every time we have the ball, has totally transformed our team down the right. Leaves gaps but also creates gaps. Swings and round abouts but we look far more threatening down the right. Need to swap out Taylor down the left and we will see Smith's formation and tactics come good. Not a dig at Taylor or elmo but active rather than reactive is the way to go. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, brummybloke said: Pushes hard every time we have the ball, has totally transformed our team down the right. Leaves gaps but also creates gaps. Swings and round abouts but we look far more threatening down the right. Need to swap out Taylor down the left and we will see Smith's formation and tactics come good. Not a dig at Taylor or elmo but active rather than reactive is the way to go. Spot on mate! Freddie has been a revelation down the right and carried the attack forward with Jota whilst the left side has been pretty quiet. Get Targett playing like Freddie and we'll be playing total football in no time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Villarocker said: Spot on mate! Freddie has been a revelation down the right and carried the attack forward with Jota whilst the left side has been pretty quiet. Get Targett playing like Freddie and we'll be playing total football in no time. 100% agree. In the early moments he looked shaky, and he does leave gaps, but it’s because he’s constantly on the move to get us attacking again. I heard the sky commentators saying it was Jack’s quick thinking from the freekick that lead to the goal, but Guilbert’s thinking was just as quick to run forward and receive the ball from Jack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 excellent performance, that is all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 That's a superb debut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I got questioned why I'd want him in over Elmo, well today showed why. Obviously has areas for improvement but has terrific pace and gives a great option going forward, playing a superb role in the first goal with an excellent run. All the qualities of a modern fullback, will only get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 He's like the right back version of Amavi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 He's very good and will attach to his role nicely, isn't scared to have a crack either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted August 23, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 23, 2019 Very good tonight. Great debut. Definite outlet down the right against a very good left back in Digne. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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