hippo Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 The club listening to offers......shhhhhh.....hear that silence.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, hippo said: The club listening to offers......shhhhhh.....hear that silence.... Yet the club havent said that Turning into a bit of an agenda against Guilbert just like it was Konsa last season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I like Guilbert.I would rather he stay and one of the goalkeepers go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2020 if we sell guilbert, we're going to need to replace him when elmo's contract expires in a year. just makes no sense. unless this kessler lad is going to be ready in a year's time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 35 minutes ago, Zatman said: Yet the club havent said that Turning into a bit of an agenda against Guilbert just like it was Konsa last season Depends what you mean by an agenda. Elmo was getting picked ahead of him last season - our first summer signing was a £16m player in his position - Elmo and Cash got game time in the recent friendly - Freddie didn't. I think theres enough to suspect he will start the season well down the FB pecking order. Konsa - Ive never said is a bad player. Im just not on board with the future England international - top 4 club hype. if we get most of the players we are linked with (Martinez, Traore, Rashica ) - I would then say CB is our weakest position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, hippo said: Depends what you mean by an agenda. Elmo was getting picked ahead of him last season - our first summer signing was a £16m player in his position - Elmo and Cash got game time in the recent friendly - Freddie didn't. I think theres enough to suspect he will start the season well down the FB pecking order. Guilbert started twice as many games as Elmo last season and was injured for the restart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Guilbert started twice as many games as Elmo last season and was injured for the restart There you go then..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, hippo said: There you go then..... You said Elmo started ahead of him which he didnt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, Zatman said: You said Elmo started ahead of him which he didnt I thought post lockdown Freddie got in when Elmo got injured. ??? In any case Freddie has his work cut out for PL game time IMO. If he gets past Cash and Elmo and delivers a string of good performance s ....fair play to him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2020 2 hours ago, PussEKatt said: I like Guilbert.I would rather he stay and three of the goalkeepers go. FTFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I'm surprised we're (apparently) wanting to get rid of him. He seems a decent right-back to me. Things to work on, for sure, but always great application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 It would be nuts to sell him when he did okay in the PL, and the alternative is completely unproven at PL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Freddie isn't perfect but what he has got you are born with and the rest can be taught, keep for me 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 sell him to Brentford but include a 25% sell on clause. Boom, £5m coming our way in a years time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: It would be nuts to sell him when he did okay in the PL, and the alternative is completely unproven at PL level. We have 3 right fullbacks. That is 1 too many. One of them have to go. That won't and shouldn't be Elmo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, hippo said: I thought post lockdown Freddie got in when Elmo got injured. ??? In any case Freddie has his work cut out for PL game time IMO. If he gets past Cash and Elmo and delivers a string of good performance s ....fair play to him... Elmo got in when Hause got injured and Konsa went centre back, then Guilbert returned to the team after recovering from his injury and Elmo went down with an injury and played rest of games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: sell him to Brentford but include a 25% sell on clause. Boom, £5m coming our way in a years time What makes you think Brentford want him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I like him, he has pace, passion and aggression. Would love to keep him and see what we can do with him to develop him ...saying that, he was bought for the Championship, he has had many a stinker this year, we have higher aspirations it seems than I envisioned. If we don't think he is at the level and won't be at the level and we can move him on for what we paid I will trust their judgement. Who is to say next year we don't drop £30m on a top top right back. That seems to be where we are trying to head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: I like him, he has pace, passion and aggression. Would love to keep him and see what we can do with him to develop him ...saying that, he was bought for the Championship, he has had many a stinker this year, we have higher aspirations it seems than I envisioned. If we don't think he is at the level and won't be at the level and we can move him on for what we paid I will trust their judgement. Who is to say next year we don't drop £30m on a top top right back. That seems to be where we are trying to head. From the little i've seen of Cash. Cash is better at attacking and Guilbert is better at defending. The type of coach Smith is he will always prefer the former. Targett and Cash will make us more exciting going forward, but man.. it could be a frustrating season defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 How much should we read into him not playing tonight ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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