VillaParkAvenue Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Mings' errors is at least partly due to him trying to take responsibility in some cases, where other players may have stayed away. Errors leading to goals is so much down to luck. If the defender makes a mistake and an opposition forward is free on goal, but misses the shot = no error in the stats. If the forward scores = one error in the defender's stats. Even though the mistakes are the same. I can get more frustrated with Mings when he makes smaller mistakes, like playing a pass over the touchline after misunderstanding a team mate. Would like to see fewer of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 50 minutes ago, Anything11 said: If you have something in mind lets just go with that Acorns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted May 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, QldVilla said: I think Mings will still be at the club, just don’t think he will be captain. I don't think we have any standout players for the role, atm Ming's is the best option we have. I would love to see that change but short of £80m I can't see who we could buy that would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dale Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 I'd be irritated if he doesn't go into next season as captain. His character is everything I want this club to embody. And he's a very good player. If Gerrard wants rid, it'd be a rash, silly decision. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I like Mings and I'd like him to stay, but it depends on the other business done in the window. That said £30 million-plus for him from Newcastle wouldn't be too bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ingram85 Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 Wait, as frustrating as he can be are we really considering moving him on? He’s one of our best players and an England international. This is madness. Get a new CB in who Tyrone can depend on and not have to cover for and his own game will get even better I think. We get rid of Mings and I think I’d be asking questions about our strategy and planning, he is a huge presence on and off the field. Yes he has errors in his game but who doesn’t, for me he is the first name on the sheet defence wise. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted May 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, tinker said: I don't think we have any standout players for the role, atm Ming's is the best option we have. I would love to see that change but short of £80m I can't see who we could buy that would be better. To be honest I never thought he was the best option after glory hunter left. McGinn and Martinez are options and I wouldn’t rule out Ramsey, he’s a future Villa captain, may just be too early for him. Gerrard became captain at 23 at Plop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Shiny new toys and dump the old one Its a bizarre strategy and hopefully the club are not following the fanbase on it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Mings and Carlos will be an absolutely horrible pairing to play against. I fear for opposition strikers' wellbeing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I think we'll see the return of Tyrone Pings next season, now that he won't have to take on Konsa and to a lesser extent Chamber's attacking responsibilities. Will hopefully signal the return of Gerrard Ball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 We should only sell Mings if a desperate Champions League side is coming in with a silly offer, and even then we should think carefully. I saw someone on the Tarkowski thread suggesting we should accept 30 mil for Mings as a good bit of business. That makes no sense at all to me. Just don't see where that gets you. He's only just turned 29, and that's still fairly young for a centre back. He's a proven quantity in this league now. By all means bring in some competition for his place... Hause obviously needs to be moved on... but let's wait a season before deciding Mings can be replaced!? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, KentVillan said: We should only sell Mings if a desperate Champions League side is coming in with a silly offer, and even then we should think carefully. I saw someone on the Tarkowski thread suggesting we should accept 30 mil for Mings as a good bit of business. That makes no sense at all to me. Just don't see where that gets you. He's only just turned 29, and that's still fairly young for a centre back. He's a proven quantity in this league now. By all means bring in some competition for his place... Hause obviously needs to be moved on... but let's wait a season before deciding Mings can be replaced!? All these signings are messing with people's heads, they're going full FM mode. 17 England caps in the last 3 years, but we'll sell him for barely more than we paid for him when he was an uncapped sick note at Bournemouth? Yeah right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I think we'll see the return of Tyrone Pings next season, now that he won't have to take on Konsa and to a lesser extent Chamber's attacking responsibilities. Will hopefully signal the return of Gerrard Ball With Kamara and Carlos among the top passers in the top 5 leagues you can take it as a given we'll return to Gerrard ball and building from the back. What Carlos is the best in the world at is switch plays, which are completed passes which travel 40 yards of the width of the pitch. He averages 3.8 of these per game. Digne and Cash are going to love this. Kamara is among the best at those too. So we'll see us playing from the back, we've two players who are press resistant and will look to beat high press with switch passes and passes that bypass the press. Mings will focus on defending which he's very good at. He's great at blocks, clearances, interceptions and he doesn't get dribbled past. Mings is also great at carrying the ball forward out of defence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Is Mings good enough to take us to the next level though? We finished 14th we lost 19 games last seaosn. Gerrard is already making a statement with the signinhs he has made so far. Mings has had no real threat to his place since arriving at Villa. If we sign anolther cb his place is definately under threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I think its good to have 2 29 year old CB's, they are better the older they are (to an extent)...James Collins/Michael Dawson have done decent jobs for the hammers over recent seasons and Carlos and Mings partnership will be aggressive, strong and not afraid to mix it up with opposition strikers....looking forward to seeing them in action 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 How tall is Carlos? I know Mings is over 6 ft. I feel we don't pose enough threat from corners with our big defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, PaulC said: Is Mings good enough to take us to the next level though? We finished 14th we lost 19 games last seaosn. Gerrard is already making a statement with the signinhs he has made so far. Mings has had no real threat to his place since arriving at Villa. If we sign anolther cb his place is definately under threat. We'll there is competition now. Carlos can play with any of Mings, Konsa or Chambers. So whoever is playing best will partner him. Mings and Carlos our the two best CBs at the club imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, duke313 said: How tall is Carlos? I know Mings is over 6 ft. I feel we don't pose enough threat from corners with our big defenders. He is slightly taller than Konsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, duke313 said: How tall is Carlos? I know Mings is over 6 ft. I feel we don't pose enough threat from corners with our big defenders. 6'1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Villatillidie95 said: I think its good to have 2 29 year old CB's, they are better the older they are (to an extent)...James Collins/Michael Dawson have done decent jobs for the hammers over recent seasons and Carlos and Mings partnership will be aggressive, strong and not afraid to mix it up with opposition strikers....looking forward to seeing them in action Criag you mean? Michael has been retired a while now. Edited May 27, 2022 by sparrow1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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