Villatillidie95 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 minute ago, sparrow1988 said: Criag you mean? Michael has been retired a while now. yes your right, craig dawson not michael dawson, although i thought he did a decent job for his teams back in the day too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KentVillan Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 46 minutes ago, PaulC said: Is Mings good enough to take us to the next level though? We finished 14th we lost 19 games last seaosn. Gerrard is already making a statement with the signinhs he has made so far. Mings has had no real threat to his place since arriving at Villa. If we sign anolther cb his place is definately under threat. Depends what you mean by next level. If you mean Top 8, then yes he's definitely good enough IMO. If you mean Champions League, then no, probably not, but we're some way off that. I can see the case for moving him on eventually, but doing it this summer feels unnecessary - unless there's a really big offer on the table (50m+) from a desperate club with too much money to play with... then it might make some sense. The numbers being quoted at the moment (30-35m) don't justify the sale. I don't see what we get out of it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, duke313 said: How tall is Carlos? I know Mings is over 6 ft. I feel we don't pose enough threat from corners with our big defenders. 12 Tommy Elphicks You’re right though, we barely ever score headers from corners. In the clip on his thread, Carlos does score a few. So that’s a bonus. Edited May 27, 2022 by It's Your Round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post It's Your Round Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 Just on Mings… I think we would be stupid to sell him. He’s been a massive part of our revival, he helped bring leadership, professionalism and character to our team when we sorely needed it. Tyrone has been with us on the journey back from mid table championship obscurity, I remember the time he stopped his car outside the Aston Tavern and spoke to the fans, he was mobbed by people so happy to have him. Have we forgotten what he did after the play off final? Full kit on the train to Bournemouth.. we all loved him! He has represented our club for England and made us all proud with his comments and performances. He’s a perfect captain, if you ask me. His comeback form injuries has fallen inline with our resurgence, it’s been a great fit and I’d like nothing more than to see him complete his mission and lead us out in Europe. He’s not perfect and makes mistakes, sure. But what he brings outside of those mistakes more than makes up for it. In my opinion. He’s not done here yet. 9 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Hang on, why is there talk of selling Mings? I know we have just bought a new CB in Diego Carlos, and he has played LCB for Seville, but as far as I can tell Diego Carlos is a right footed CB, so should easily slot in next to Ty at CB. Then we will have two strong, fast and robust centre backs playing at CB which sounds pretty good to me. You would imagine opposition forwards would know they were in for a tough game if you came up against those two. For me, this spells the end of Hause if anyone is to leave. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, NeilS said: Hang on, why is there talk of selling Mings? I know we have just bought a new CB in Diego Carlos, and he has played LCB for Seville, but as far as I can tell Diego Carlos is a right footed CB, so should easily slot in next to Ty at CB. Then we will have two strong, fast and robust centre backs playing at CB which sounds pretty good to me. You would imagine opposition forwards would know they were in for a tough game if you came up against those two. For me, this spells the end of Hause if anyone is to leave. Combination of things. Along with the Diego Carlos being a LCB at Sevilla some people believe he’s simply not good enough to push on. Some just want to take advantage of his value which is at the highest point it’s ever been and that ties into some people reading a rumor about Newcastle wanting him for £30 million. Some think Tarkowski is still coming which would mean Mings to the bench and he wouldn’t stick around to be a bench warmer. I’m probably missing one or two more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Combination of things. Along with the Diego Carlos being a LCB at Sevilla some people believe he’s simply not good enough to push on. Some just want to take advantage of his value which is at the highest point it’s ever been and that ties into some people reading a rumor about Newcastle wanting him for £30 million. Some think Tarkowski is still coming which would mean Mings to the bench and he wouldn’t stick around to be a bench warmer. I’m probably missing one or two more. Yeah I guess there are the rumours circulating. I can’t see Tarkowski coming tbh. Mings is ahead of him in the England squad reckoning for a reason, so I don’t see it happening now. Also, I think we need a bit of continuity moving forward to have a chance of progress. I have just seen Mings has posted a welcome messsge on Instagram for Diego Carlos, and follows him. I hope that means he is staying, as I think he still has an important role to play in our progression. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 38 minutes ago, NeilS said: Yeah I guess there are the rumours circulating. I can’t see Tarkowski coming tbh. Mings is ahead of him in the England squad reckoning for a reason, so I don’t see it happening now. Also, I think we need a bit of continuity moving forward to have a chance of progress. I have just seen Mings has posted a welcome messsge on Instagram for Diego Carlos, and follows him. I hope that means he is staying, as I think he still has an important role to play in our progression. Just seen that, he follows him too. Doubt he’d do that if he was intending to leave. With Tarkowski looking unlikely now, Ming and Carlos look to be the back two. Hopefully the form a solid base with Kamara in front. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Don_Simon Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 Do. Not. Sell. Tyrone. Mings. He's the embodiment of what I want our club to represent and stand for. Would be a huge loss on and off the pitch. Villa represent something, our soul is still intact, Tyrone represents that. I hope Management see that top. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Unless there’s another centre back coming it’s Mings and Carlos for me next season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 hours ago, It's Your Round said: Just on Mings… I think we would be stupid to sell him. He’s been a massive part of our revival, he helped bring leadership, professionalism and character to our team when we sorely needed it. Tyrone has been with us on the journey back from mid table championship obscurity, I remember the time he stopped his car outside the Aston Tavern and spoke to the fans, he was mobbed by people so happy to have him. Have we forgotten what he did after the play off final? Full kit on the train to Bournemouth.. we all loved him! He has represented our club for England and made us all proud with his comments and performances. He’s a perfect captain, if you ask me. His comeback form injuries has fallen inline with our resurgence, it’s been a great fit and I’d like nothing more than to see him complete his mission and lead us out in Europe. He’s not perfect and makes mistakes, sure. But what he brings outside of those mistakes more than makes up for it. In my opinion. He’s not done here yet. I am not disputing anything you are saying but Premier League football with ambitions of qualifying for Europe is not a place for sentiment. The management of the club need to be ruthless in their decision making to take us to the next level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) Aston Villa: Star man drops hint he’ll remain at club | Aston Villa: Star man drops hint he’ll remain at club | thisisfutbol.com Quote He wrote, “After a tough ending to a tough season I just wanna thank everyone associated with @AVFCOfficial for your support. Work has started on making sure we’re better prepared & better equipped for next season already, but for now… I can’t wait for a rest. see you all soon” I'm firmly in the Mings in camp! Edited May 27, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegzy Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Should no way sell him. He is the most, Aston Villa, player we have left in the squad. When he doesn’t play we really struggle and his leadership is immense. he also seems to have cut out most of the mistakes in recent weeks. He’s also a bit of a nasty bugger and pantomime villain to other teams which is exactly what we need. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I love Ty but i am coming round to the idea that any team that loses 50 percent of their league games needs massive work on the character side as well as the footballing side. And to bring in a new Captain that has a winning mentality/ winning record might help. He is a wonderful human being but is he nasty enough and demanding enough of his team mates ? Just playing devils advocate here as it might be a valid view . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshie2000 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 On 26/05/2022 at 19:22, duke313 said: Only if we sign Tarkowski Why he's shite, I'd take Mings over him everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 47 minutes ago, stegzy said: Should no way sell him. He is the most, Aston Villa, player we have left in the squad. When he doesn’t play we really struggle and his leadership is immense. he also seems to have cut out most of the mistakes in recent weeks. He’s also a bit of a nasty bugger and pantomime villain to other teams which is exactly what we need. We all know Gerrard’s spoken about consistency. I think it’s fairly safe to say Mings has been one of the most, if not the most consistent player since SG took over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Mings will be up for the challenge to get back into the England squad and keep his place in the 1st XI… Competition for places raises standards and he’s been assured of his spot for too long. No offence to Hause whom is a talented defender btw . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I've been critical of Mings, even said we should upgrade, but maybe getting Carlos in to partner him, an older, more experienced head, might calm him and take some pressure off him. We'll know by August anyway what will happen but I think we'll start the season with Mings and Carlos starting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Newry_Villan said: I've been critical of Mings, even said we should upgrade, but maybe getting Carlos in to partner him, an older, more experienced head, might calm him and take some pressure off him. We'll know by August anyway what will happen but I think we'll start the season with Mings and Carlos starting. Agree but just to nitpick, Mings is actually two days older than Diego Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Thanks for everything Mings! Good luck in your next adventure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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