Killeen30 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Taxahunter said: What a stupid thing to say… This thread is full of stupid posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Killeen30 Posted August 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2021 We all know El Ghazi is a confidence player and that pen will do him the world of good. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: That’s why we need to get one! Sell him and use the money to upgrade, or play JPB. I just think he offers very little apart from the odd penalty. Villa are very good at signing players but not so good at selling them. We need to be moving El Ghazi and Nakamba on and levelling up in their position. Don't get me wrong, if a club were to come in with the £17 million fee Roma were being linked with a few weeks ago then we should be taking it. Anything £15 million and above would be a good deal for us. But I wouldn't be actively looking to sell him on if a big offer isn't on the table. JPB will get opportunities this season; but we need experienced players in games. Playing Ramsey and JPB together yesterday could have caused us problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 He is not good enough but you can’t fault his professionalism. He just does his job when called upon and never bitches and moans. He is a good teammate as Dean would say. I agree with those that say we should sell him though if possible. He only has 2 years left on his contract and he probably is at his optimum value now. Whether we like it or not, we do have to keep selling players to evolve. He is only playing because Bailey, Watkins and Traore are all injured. One of those comes back and AEG drops out. If you get £15m for him from a lower PL team you could reinvest some of that on a younger player with a much higher potential ceiling. Someone like Alvarez. That’s how clubs like us evolve. Keep our core together, sell ancillary players for decent profits and re-invest in up and coming stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxahunter Posted August 22, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, jim said: One of those occasions Young apologised as he played it too short and it went out of play. Exactly, but some in here only see it as AEG’s fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 22, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2021 If he was as good as he can be sometimes, all of the time, then he wouldn’t have signed for us as a newly promoted team and he probs wouldn’t still be here. His consistency isn’t great, but he is a squad player essentially. There are worse in the PL at many teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, Killeen30 said: We all know El Ghazi is a confidence player and that pen will do him the world of good. This is a myth too. Just an excuse for being poor. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, M_Afro said: He is not good enough but you can’t fault his professionalism. He just does his job when called upon and never bitches and moans. He is a good teammate as Dean would say. I agree with those that say we should sell him though if possible. He only has 2 years left on his contract and he probably is at his optimum value now. Whether we like it or not, we do have to keep selling players to evolve. He is only playing because Bailey, Watkins and Traore are all injured. One of those comes back and AEG drops out. If you get £15m for him from a lower PL team you could reinvest some of that on a younger player with a much higher potential ceiling. Someone like Alvarez. That’s how clubs like us evolve. Keep our core together, sell ancillary players for decent profits and re-invest in up and coming stars. We have Bailey and JPB ready to take his spot - I'd spend that money acquiring more of the best 15-17 year-olds like we have been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Just now, lexicon said: We have Bailey and JPB ready to take his spot - I'd spend that money acquiring more of the best 15-17 year-olds like we have been doing. I’m not totally against not buying another wide attacking player. I don’t think we’ve properly replaced Grealish and that will show more as the season progresses. However, we do have options there with players who can play there - Bailey, JPB etc. Our main concern is the defensive midfield position. Luiz isn’t up to it and Nakamba is very average. Get a quality no.6 and we’ll have a much better chance of finishing in the top 10 this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 The problem with el Ghazi is the lack of creativity. He's a finisher - can find himself at the back post or score a good goal from 20 yards sometimes - but that's the only real part of his game. When the shot isn't on, his passing isn't great, he's not technical or fast enough to beat a man, so it's either a simple pass that only wasted time, or he loses the ball. Useful guy to have and put on in the last 20 when you're chasing a goal, but other than that, we need Bailey in there ASAP. What we saw from Leon in that short cameo, we've never really seen from Anwar. Night and day in terms of player level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: This is a myth too. Just an excuse for being poor. So some football players don’t rely on confidence? You are wrong. This is a fact. While he might not be Ronaldo or whoever, I’d much rather have a confident El Ghazi, f he is starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, lexicon said: The problem with el Ghazi is the lack of creativity. He's a finisher - can find himself at the back post or score a good goal from 20 yards sometimes - but that's the only real part of his game. When the shot isn't on, his passing isn't great, he's not technical or fast enough to beat a man, so it's either a simple pass that only wasted time, or he loses the ball. Useful guy to have and put on in the last 20 when you're chasing a goal, but other than that, we need Bailey in there ASAP. What we saw from Leon in that short cameo, we've never really seen from Anwar. Night and day in terms of player level. This I wonder whether he should try to convert himself into a striker as he has a good eye for finishing, decent movement and reasonable (if not spectacular pace) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumblerseven Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, lapal_fan said: Thought he did some pretty good things yesterday. He miscontrolled one pass but got back on it and squared a good ball for a chance in the first half. Had a really good touch when the ball came into his feet with back to goal and defender behind him, he opened his body go one way and then lost his defender going the other way. Was never gonna miss the penalty. He's a scapegoat for a lot of things, but I'll always appreciate him. Matty Cash and Ramsey also had a few bad touches and lost the ball etc, but the reaction is never as vehemently negative as when El Ghazi does it. We have some strange and shitty fans. Oh wow one pass guys you hear it ONE MSCONTROLLED PASS!!!!! So you didint see that el ghazi cant beat his defender with his speed or skill? You didint see how young passed him the ball like 5 times and he instantly passed him back because he just cant compete with his defender? You didint see his bad positioning and isolating himself? You didint see the episode when young got the ball and started running on the left and couldnt pass the ball to no one because el ghazi ran near him on the right. One miscontrolled pass? what a joke! When i see el ghazi playing i see RONALDO with no skill with no speed with no sense of positioning and sluggish body language. Low mid tier championship player who can score a pen nothing more. Edited August 22, 2021 by Tumblerseven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Man can take a penalty, that’s for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I was fuming at the time that the ref was being so slow getting the players out of the box and getting in to position. Anwar was stood there just staring at the keeper for what felt like a good minute, and he looked nervous as hell, the pressure of standing on the spot waiting for so long couldn't have helped. Balls of steel though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hank Scorpio Posted August 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2021 So can anyone please explain this logic to me re El Ghazi. In my new season ticket seats yesterday and probably no more than 15 minutes into the game yesterday these two people directly behind me who are probably 20 or so say to each other god he is so shit, get him off. El Ghazi had lost the ball once at that point trying to beat the full back. First thought, who would you replace him with exactly? The bashing of him continued all game. We get the penalty..up steps El Ghazi. Now I have been going to villa park since 1988 and I have never heard something, to me, as idiotic and rage inducing as: "I hate him so much, I hope he misses the penalty" He scores and they celebrate. I am literally lost for words at the retardation of these people at this point. Anyone want to swap seats because I can see myself getting arrested before the season is over when i cave one of their skulls in. Help me here, am i being unfair or should these pair of words removed just **** off down to the Temple of Doom instead? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted August 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: So can anyone please explain this logic to me re El Ghazi. In my new season ticket seats yesterday and probably no more than 15 minutes into the game yesterday these two people directly behind me who are probably 20 or so say to each other god he is so shit, get him off. El Ghazi had lost the ball once at that point trying to beat the full back. First thought, who would you replace him with exactly? The bashing of him continued all game. We get the penalty..up steps El Ghazi. Now I have been going to villa park since 1988 and I have never heard something, to me, as idiotic and rage inducing as: "I hate him so much, I hope he misses the penalty" He scores and they celebrate. I am literally lost for words at the retardation of these people at this point. Anyone want to swap seats because I can see myself getting arrested before the season is over when i cave one of their skulls in. Help me here, am i being unfair or should these pair of words removed just **** off down to the Temple of Doom instead? Not an unfair assessment at all, @Pissflaps. Problem is that these boys (& that’s what they are) have expectations around football that are from an instant gratification culture. Five seconds of brilliance: life is awesome. Five seconds of crap: it’s a disaster. They are the same sorts of people who demand we sign twenty players every summer because that’s what you do on Football Manager. Football is an opera that is played over 90 or so minutes. Enjoy it on your terms, mate: and f*ck em. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, Tumblerseven said: Oh wow one pass guys you hear it ONE MSCONTROLLED PASS!!!!! So you didint see that el ghazi cant beat his defender with his speed or skill? You didint see how young passed him the ball like 5 times and he instantly passed him back because he just cant compete with his defender? You didint see his bad positioning and isolating himself? You didint see the episode when young got the ball and started running on the left and couldnt pass the ball to no one because el ghazi ran near him on the right. One miscontrolled pass? what a joke! When i see el ghazi playing i see RONALDO with no skill with no speed with no sense of positioning and sluggish body language. Low mid tier championship player who can score a pen nothing more. Scored a few decent goals in the prem for a mediocre championship level player, hasn't he? Got a few assists too. I think your assessment of him as a player is probably the same level as your English, so I'm fine with how I see it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 59 minutes ago, Killeen30 said: So some football players don’t rely on confidence? You are wrong. This is a fact. While he might not be Ronaldo or whoever, I’d much rather have a confident El Ghazi, f he is starting. Lol. A confident el Ghazi? When has he been confident? How many times has he had the chance to gain confidence only to then put in a horrid display after the event? This idea that he’s a confidence player is just an excuse for him playing poorly week in week out. He’s just not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 How interesting that for someone so lambasted for being mentally weak he can step up and bang a penalty in no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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