JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Adam2003 said: For my money he’s definitely a top half PL midfielder. He nearly has 100 games for us and I hope he gets 200. Agreed, but that's when he is on form. He has been bang out of form for a while though. Although, in one of our recent games, he showed signs of the old McGinn. Basically, I'd reckon the fan base unanimously want to keep him. The argument is whether/why he should be starting no matter what form he is in. We need to be able to replace him in the team when he is totally off it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Does absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 He's getting worse every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Now I'm starting to get frustrated. Reputation above level of performances, how he is deemed to be absolutely undroppable by the staff is rather baffling to me. Sure, his peers haven't been much better, but everyone else's place is there to be competed for. His isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 This guy again is so poor! He's slow, gives the ball away so many times and gives away poor fouls. Yet it happens week in week out. Offers us absolutely nothing and he is the weakest link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Unfortunately his running around where the danger isn't doesn't sway me. He's not a good enough for the top 12 of the premier League. Needs too much time on the ball to be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Playing 3 games all over Europe in 10 days is Not what he needs right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Get our £3 million (or whatever it was for him) and let Celtic have him and use it towards a bid for Ward-Prowse or someone similar. If we are happy with mid-table mediocrity again next season by all means keep playing him, I can't understand what Smith sees in him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxYoungAVFC Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 - Inefficient use of energy - poor decision making & concentration - one footed - slow since injury - predictable - 178cm (according to Transfermarkt but I'm sure he's smaller) £15m max and should be a squad player. Still love him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, LxYoungAVFC said: - Inefficient use of energy - poor decision making & concentration - one footed - slow since injury - predictable - 178cm (according to Transfermarkt but I'm sure he's smaller) £15m max and should be a squad player. Still love him though. And... - gives the ball away on average three times every match. Squad player at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 His ass rolling of defenders was one of his greatest strengths and has been found out as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpants Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 The criticism of him is ridiculous. He’s a wholly capable premier league midfielder. Combative and competitive and important in attack and defence. He’s part of a midfield that is getting overrun at the moment. Mainly because they don’t have an out ball that sticks or a creative player to give the ball to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 If he starts our next game then I want Dean’s resignation. I love SJM for his attitude, enthusiasm and everything that he has done for our club but he has been rubbish for 12 months. Mr undroppable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Turning into a squad player ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxYoungAVFC Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Just now, kevpants said: The criticism of him is ridiculous. He’s a wholly capable premier league midfielder. Combative and competitive and important in attack and defence. He’s part of a midfield that is getting overrun at the moment. Mainly because they don’t have an out ball that sticks or a creative player to give the ball to. No he's been pants since his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Get our £3 million (or whatever it was for him) and let Celtic have him and use it towards a bid for Ward-Prowse or someone similar. If we are happy with mid-table mediocrity again next season by all means keep playing him, I can't understand what Smith sees in him? Do you not think he's a good rnough squad player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, M_Afro said: If he starts our next game then I want Dean’s resignation. I love SJM for his attitude, enthusiasm and everything that he has done for our club but he has been rubbish for 12 months. Mr undroppable! Who comes in for him? Its Fulham at home so you'd hope 55%+ possession so that's not Nakamba, Ramsey I don't mind him getting game time but he's struggling to make his mark on games, Barkley is even worse I agree that he should be dropped or at least subbed because he's been poor for a while now but at the same time the squad options are so poor we're stuck with him In the summer I think we replace him, midfield of Luiz, sanson and then A.N.Other with McGinn, Nakamba and Ramsey as options on the bench, even then the bench is weak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Get our £3 million (or whatever it was for him) and let Celtic have him and use it towards a bid for Ward-Prowse or someone similar. If we are happy with mid-table mediocrity again next season by all means keep playing him, I can't understand what Smith sees in him? mm Ward Prowse hasnt finished in a top 10 side in 4 seasons and I think except his free kicks he isnt great in open play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: mm Ward Prowse hasnt finished in a top 10 side in 4 seasons and I think except his free kicks he isnt great in open play I like him but as a transfer target he's completely unrealistic, never coming to us and not worth the £50m odd they'd want for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) Starting to think, John was also a more important player for us than we realized. And his collapse in form has coincided with our decline as well. He used to keep things ticking over, win everything and was also a goal threat. Him being so out of form might also have to do with everything else being disjointed. Deano obviously relies on hi heavily, currently letting himself and the team down. I genuinely don't think he is as bad as recent form suggests. What's happened?! We need to try Nakamba, Luiz and Sanson in front. Edited March 21, 2021 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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