Dr_Pangloss Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 20:59, VILLAMARV said: Did someone say pay gap again? Absolutely embarrassing from Cathy Newman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Yes she had a mare there. There are loads of interesting questions I’d like to see this guy discussing as well but she made it so easy trying to put words in his mouth and play ‘gotcha’. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 She's exposed as an absolute idiot who can't keep up against someone who understands the subject they're talking about. Very embarrassing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2018 She might have done better to fire a pistol at him and do everyone a favour, than at her own feet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Russell Brand actually does a much better job of interviewing him though I won't post the link from Youtube knowing how Marmite Brand is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: Russell Brand actually does a much better job of interviewing him though I won't post the link from Youtube knowing how Marmite Brand is He rambled on like the babbling brook of bullshit he is. Whilst I don't agree with everything, Peterson often makes some great points on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Don't know if this is relevant. I got accused of mans-plaining (spelling?) by a woman on facebook a while back. She was talking about racism and white people, she happens to be indigenous, and I simply highlighted that not all white folk are genocidal or even racist. She said as a white male you are this, and that. Whatever. It became apparent that although I was the one mans-plaining, I was also being condescendingly told what's what. I just told her I was comfortable with the way I treat others and that the ultimate sin is to be ashamed of your skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted August 5, 2019 Administrator Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, A'Villan said: I just told her I was comfortable with the way I treat others and that the ultimate sin is to be ashamed of your skin. "Sin" is a religiously inspired guilt mechanism. Why would anyone bring their personal religious views to an unrelated conversation? If it has the attributes of privilege, then it's probably privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, A'Villan said: Don't know if this is relevant. I got accused of mans-plaining (spelling?) by a woman on facebook a while back. She was talking about racism and white people, she happens to be indigenous, and I simply highlighted that not all white folk are genocidal or even racist. She said as a white male you are this, and that. Whatever. It became apparent that although I was the one mans-plaining, I was also being condescendingly told what's what. I just told her I was comfortable with the way I treat others and that the ultimate sin is to be ashamed of your skin. serves you right for having a political type conversation on Facebook .. cats , kids and pictures of dinner only on that platform she also sounds like a man hating bigot so if you want to continue the conversation , that should be your opening gambit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 7 hours ago, A'Villan said: Don't know if this is relevant. I got accused of mans-plaining (spelling?) by a woman on facebook a while back. She was talking about racism and white people, she happens to be indigenous, and I simply highlighted that not all white folk are genocidal or even racist. She said as a white male you are this, and that. Whatever. It became apparent that although I was the one mans-plaining, I was also being condescendingly told what's what. I just told her I was comfortable with the way I treat others and that the ultimate sin is to be ashamed of your skin. Your initial mistake was getting involved in a conversation with this poisonous individual in the first place. You did well with your replies though. Never get involved in dialogue with people like this is my advice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 2, 2021 Question. Is this sexism or Taylor Swift not liking a joke about her love life? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56247655 Quote Taylor Swift criticises Netflix show for 'deeply sexist joke' Quote Taylor Swift has accused a Netflix show of "degrading" women for featuring a joke she branded "deeply sexist". The pop star tweeted to criticise the joke, which was in the season finale of comedy-drama Ginny and Georgia. In one scene, main characters Ginny Miller and her mother Georgia argued about relationships. Asked whether she had broken up with her boyfriend, Ginny said: "What do you care? You go through men faster than Taylor Swift." The line incurred the wrath of Swift's fans, prompting criticism of the show and its cast members on social media. Some Swift fans even called for a boycott of the series. On Monday, Swift herself addressed the controversy in a tweet, writing: "Hey Ginny & Georgia, 2010 called and it wants its lazy, deeply sexist joke back." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 2, 2021 That's not a sexist joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 2, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 2, 2021 It’s mildly disguised slut shaming 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 It is. Its based in a myth that Taylor Swift goes through a lot of men. That all men in her company are her current squeeze and these myths are judged on. She gets this shit a lot. People have trotted it out on VT for gods sake. It would not happen if she was a man. It wouldn’t. Good on her. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 2, 2021 Yeah agreed. maybe the joke itself isn't sexist, but it's the fact it wouldn't get made if she was a man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 If she'd like to, erm, get through one more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 Does my head in when they put jokes in comedy dramas It's like they're trying to muscle in on the comedy crowd as well as the drama nuts ! . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 2, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah agreed. maybe the joke itself isn't sexist, but it's the fact it wouldn't get made if she was a man That surely is the very definition of sexism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I think the problem here is the double standard rather than the joke itself. It's inarguable that she's been linked to a lot of men (although that doesn't necessarily mean she's been shagging all of them). The answer to that is "so what". She's committed no crime and should feel no shame but her aggressive response suggests that the joke has caught a nerve. There's plenty of men (ironically most of the older men linked to her) who chose not to settle down with a single partner but they aren't subjected to the same level of scrutiny - that's where the sexism lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 The joke is about the fact she writes and sings so many songs about break ups. So she herself is putting it out there that she goes through so many break-ups. Not sexist, because she's put the info out there. Bit like Russell Brand is always labelled a womaniser or whatever, it's because he puts it out there. If Taylor didn't sing songs about breaking up, and they still wrote that joke, then yea, it's sexist because they're making assumptions about her. You can't go around making a name for yourself for doing something, and not having that something used in a comedic way - that's parody/satire to me. As ever, happy to be corrected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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