Harry Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 On 29/08/2018 at 09:16, Stevo985 said: He's not a good player. We’ll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted October 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2018 I wonder if the new manager can put to bed the perennial argument of whether Hogan is any good or not? A possession based game in the attacking third would suit him better imo, with people picking his runs and supplying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, villan-scott said: I wonder if the new manager can put to bed the perennial argument of whether Hogan is any good or not? A possession based game in the attacking third would suit him better imo, with people picking his runs and supplying him. Going to struggle to have a possession based game in the final third playing the worst striker at keeping the ball, i've ever seen wear the shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 He'll be third choice behind Codge and Tammy so he won't see much game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 minute ago, villa89 said: He'll be third choice behind Codge and Tammy so he won't see much game time. Unless he pops up in midfie............oh, no, phew.....................must’ve been a nightmare...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 It would be interesting if Dean Smith is appointed the new manager as they worked so well together previously. Just shows how lopsided our squad is, which other team in our division has 2 £10m+ plus strikers that cant even get into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted October 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2018 Well someone’s pleased! This will give him confidence again, and hopefully bring the best out of him! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 If Dean Smith is the manager we all hope he is, hogan will still be sitting on the bench or in the stands most of the time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 We get it you don’t like him. What usually happens is New manager = fresh start for everyone including Hogan. Personally I hope he comes good under the new manager rather than discarding him completely. Some managers get the best out of certain players, not saying it’s the case here but to dismiss it completely is pretty poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, DCJonah said: If Dean Smith is the manager we all hope he is, hogan will still be sitting on the bench or in the stands most of the time. I think the history between them will mean he at least gets a chance to prove himself. Your absolute dislike of him seems a little irrational. No question that some managers get more out of some players than others and likewise some systems suit some players more than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, DCJonah said: If Dean Smith is the manager we all hope he is, hogan will still be sitting on the bench or in the stands most of the time. That literally makes zero sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Just now, Lerner's Driver said: I think the history between them will mean he at least gets a chance to prove himself. Your absolute dislike of him seems a little irrational. No question that some managers get more out of some players than others and likewise some systems suit some players more than others. It's very rational. Its based on watching an awful football player. The idea he is suddenly going to completely change into a good player for us is irrational. I'm sure he will get a chance. I'm sure he won't take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Jareth said: That literally makes zero sense. That's a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Scored plenty in a Smith team before. Why not again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Let’s hope Hogan can refind form and fire us up the league. Be interesting to see even with Smith coming in whether he ousts Tammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, DCJonah said: That's a shame. Not for Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: It's very rational. Its based on watching an awful football player. The idea he is suddenly going to completely change into a good player for us is irrational. I'm sure he will get a chance. I'm sure he won't take it But he was once a good player... for Brentford, hence us buying him, so your logic doesn't stand up I'm afraid. He 'suddenly became awful' under Bruce because Bruce didn't use him properly. He may not take his chance, but I hope he does mostly because it will benefit Villa if he does. For you to dismiss that as a possibility before it has the chance to be proven one way or the other suggests a closed mind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Hogan retweeted bet he is one happy man tonight: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Scott Hogan right now after a danger **** Edited October 10, 2018 by Villan4Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted October 10, 2018 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2018 Scott Hogan says sacked Aston Villa boss Steve Bruce 'hung me out to dry' and made false promises in an effort to keep him at the club. The Ireland striker has not kicked a ball this season but is here in Dublin preparing for the Nations League double header against Denmark and Wales. Hogan has nothing but respect for Bruce the man, but when invited to expand on Bruce the manager his criticism is fierce. The player who had scored 21 goals from 27 starts for Brentford before Bruce signed him for £12million in January of last year reveals the frustration of a conservative playing style which saw his predatory instincts sacrificed before a move to Sheffield United was blocked in the summer. Hogan said: 'The most difficult thing in football is not playing when you're fit. The second most difficult is playing in a system where there is just no way on this earth it's suited to you, you are hung out to dry a little bit. 'It (a 4-1-4-1 formation) led to less chances, less touches in the box. But I did what the manager asked me to do, he only ever asked me to work hard. 'I knocked on his door a couple of days before the window shut just to find out what was going on. Sheff United were very interested. 'I wasn't allowed to leave. He was adamant that he didn't want me to go, he said I had a future playing as a striker and I was assured we were going to change the way we were playing. 'So it was disappointing for me two days later when he signed a striker and nothing changed at all. 'I then had an injury, which didn't help, but for the past five weeks I've been fit. So it's frustrating, but it's more frustrating when there is no answer. If you have a reason why you're not playing, you can go and work on it. 'People say you've got to be professional, train your best and all that, but it's difficult because you know you're not getting anything out of it. My head wasn't completely in it if I'm honest, because you knew no matter what you did that week, you weren't going to play, so there was nothing you could do except go home.' To that end, Bruce's sacking last week with Villa in the bottom half of the Championship would have come as a relief for Hogan. He and Ireland team-mate Conor Hourihane have been following reports linking the likes of Thierry Henry and John Terry with the vacancy this week. And Hogan says the return of Terry in any capacity would be a boost after his season on the playing staff at Villa Park. 'He was great last year,' said the 26-year-old. 'He's different to what you expect, he's almost quite shy. He's not the most vocal but he leads by example. 'As a central defender he's watched the game from the back all his life and he understands things, he understands patterns of play, where to be, his reading of the game... he's arguably been the best defender of his generation. 'So if he can pass his knowledge on that would be brilliant, he knows the lads, he knows the ground, he knows the training ground, the staff. He knows what the fans expect and he has played at a big club all those years and won everything. 'But whoever it is, it doesn't matter, you've got a clean slate. Lads who have been playing will be fearing for places and lads who haven't will be thinking, "This is my chance to establish myself in the team now, get the club to where it belongs and become a hero". Hopefully I can be one of those people.' - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6262913/Aston-Villa-Scott-Hogan-accuses-Steve-Bruce-false-promises.html 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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