Junxs Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Worth noting also that Sheffield United were in league one when Bruce took over at villa with a fraction of the budget.. Joke of a performance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 1, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, TheStagMan said: FFS that is a schoolboy error. Real basic mistake. I wonder why the ref didn't say something. Someone could get hurt! The boots they wear these days offer less protection than an Aston Villa defence anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, USA_Villa said: A small part of the Guardian article when Bruce got fired from Sunderland ......... Seems like history is repeating itself all over again. If he failed to cut it as a tactician, the 50-year-old did not seem much of a strategist either. Including loans, 30 players were signed – several of whom have subsequently been moved on – during Bruce's two-and-a-half years on Wearside. That represents an unsettling "churn" factor and hardly proved conducive to developing either a clear playing philosophy or strong team spirit. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/nov/30/steve-bruce-sunderland-sacked I and others have posted the link to that article 12 months plus ago and we were told to give Bruce a chance................... He has had his chance, been backed and has not apparently not changed at all. We are just wasting time letting him stay in charge any longer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 1, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Junxs said: Worth noting also that Sheffield United were in league one when Bruce took over at villa with a fraction of the budget.. Joke of a performance That is quite damning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwdriver Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 The spine of the team last season was Johnson Terry Chester Snodgrass Grealish and Kodja. They are/were big characters. noisy boys in the dressing room. The replacements don't have the same charisma. Johnson not signing was Xia's **** up. Terry was a board decision. I don't know about Snodgrass. But in football it's crucial to keep hold of your core players. Remember what happened when we lost Vlaar Delph Cleverly and Benteke? Bruce will take some responsibility by not replacing these guys with like for like characters. Johnson should have been replaced with an experienced keeper like Ruddy or Joe Hart. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 He simply seems stuck in his ways and not moving with the times. Sorry Steve, the game has moved on and now it's time for you to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Junxs said: Worth noting also that Sheffield United were in league one when Bruce took over at villa with a fraction of the budget.. Joke of a performance yeah but Sheffield United have a system though and any player signing has to fit it. We lack this crucially 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cliffy Biro said: This is such nonsense though, Liverpools strength is not that they are deluded its actually one of their worst qualities and why they are so hated. Theres a difference between dreaming big and being totally deluded. I get the point you are trying to make but its a very naive one. Why is it naive? Surely it is naive to ask someone to do something that they have never done before and expect them to do it well. We are beyond risk taking. I accept that each appointment is a risk but it is the job of the exec to mitigate that risk as much as possible. Appointing a man with no experience of fulfilling the objectives of the club is not risk mitigation, it is madness! Come on. You are an oak. Of course you are....because you are a Villan. We don’t want/need Dean Smith. We need Pep Guardiola. Let’s make it happen. Oak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Managers often get sacked on Sunday evenings so if he's going to go before the next game, it'll probably be tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Checking this thread before bed and was hoping it was moved to other football. Fingers crossed for tomorrow. Need this sorted asap for the next manager to have two weeks working with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, USA_Villa said: A small part of the Guardian article when Bruce got fired from Sunderland ......... Seems like history is repeating itself all over again. If he failed to cut it as a tactician, the 50-year-old did not seem much of a strategist either. Including loans, 30 players were signed – several of whom have subsequently been moved on – during Bruce's two-and-a-half years on Wearside. That represents an unsettling "churn" factor and hardly proved conducive to developing either a clear playing philosophy or strong team spirit. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/nov/30/steve-bruce-sunderland-sacked Noooo he must say he gives us stability.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, screwdriver said: The spine of the team last season was Johnson Terry Chester Snodgrass Grealish and Kodja. They are/were big characters. noisy boys in the dressing room. The replacements don't have the same charisma. Johnson not signing was Xia's **** up. Terry was a board decision. I don't know about Snodgrass. But in football it's crucial to keep hold of your core players. Remember what happened when we lost Vlaar Delph Cleverly and Benteke? Bruce will take some responsibility by not replacing these guys with like for like characters. Johnson should have been replaced with an experienced keeper like Ruddy or Joe Hart. He has many faults but I struggle to find much wrong here. You mention 6 players. 3 are still here, Mcginn has replaced Snodgrass and has shown himself to be at least as tenacious, and more skilful. Theres been few players as motivational or inspirational as JT in the last 20 years, he was irreplaceable. Which leaves a goalie. On that i agree Bruce should’ve got an experienced keeper - but we don’t know if it’s his fault we didn’t, we only got funds at a very late stage. Jedi would perform better at CB with a good GK, and the GK would perform better with a good CB ! Other than that, there’s very little wrong with our personnel that a decent bit of coaching wouldn’t address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted September 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2018 I think Albert is popular so I wouldn't be surprised if the players were annoyed at trying to push him out. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mantis said: Managers often get sacked on Sunday evenings so if he's going to go before the next game, it'll probably be tomorrow. Got a bad feeling he will stay on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Good point about the players' social media. No tweets from anyone. Nobody has posted or liked any official posts on Instagram. Obviously they have been told to stay off their phones... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, M_Afro said: Why is it naive? Surely it is naive to ask someone to do something that they have never done before and expect them to do it well. We are beyond risk taking. I accept that each appointment is a risk but it is the job of the exec to mitigate that risk as much as possible. Appointing a man with no experience of fulfilling the objectives of the club is not risk mitigation, it is madness! Come on. You are an oak. Of course you are....because you are a Villan. We don’t want/need Dean Smith. We need Pep Guardiola. Let’s make it happen. Oak Yes we need to turn over another leaf and put down proper roots, no more barking up the wrong tree. Hopefully people have finally twigged before we’re sapped of all strength. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) No point sacking him if we don't have alternatives lined up. Hopefully the result is enough for the club to get the short list sorted. Edited September 1, 2018 by KenjiOgiwara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: I think Albert is popular so I wouldn't be surprised if the players were annoyed at trying to push him out. Had the same thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: Got a bad feeling he will stay on.. I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, Junxs said: Worth noting also that Sheffield United were in league one when Bruce took over at villa with a fraction of the budget.. Joke of a performance And Cardiff were below us in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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