Jareth Posted June 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 A lot depends on the truth of what is happening. If the club is completely broke and about to go into administration then Bruce would probably take another job. If Tony is capable of weathering the storm then Bruce may still take another job other, but he won't be sacked. Anyway, it looks like the manager situation is down on the list of priorities at this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 In our current state it makes sense keeping him on. When things calm down, if unless by a miracle we are storming the league I'd set up plans to replace him with a better long term solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I can't figure out if Bruce becomes a more or less attractive option if we're in as much shit as we think we're in next season. Yes, nothing is easy to predict at the moment, but if you think about it, we are probably likely to become even more like the sort of club Bruce typically manages - uninspiring, but hard working, nick one on the break. No more pesky expectations, so he can get on with surviving and surprising people with next season's mid table miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didiersix Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 It makes my piss boil the thought of Bruce staying. He has a readymade excuse - young lads, no money - and can walk away any time with his reputation intact. Despite the fact he has played a significant part in our downfall. I really don't trust him to bring the best out of our U-23 players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Didiersix said: It makes my piss boil the thought of Bruce staying. He has a readymade excuse - young lads, no money - and can walk away any time with his reputation intact. Despite the fact he has played a significant part in our downfall. I really don't trust him to bring the best out of our U-23 players. Not being funny but we need someone now who can sort the defence and anything else is a bonus - that is Bruce in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Didiersix said: It makes my piss boil the thought of Bruce staying. He has a readymade excuse - young lads, no money - and can walk away any time with his reputation intact. Despite the fact he has played a significant part in our downfall. I really don't trust him to bring the best out of our U-23 players. Edited June 6, 2018 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted June 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 It’s for the best now if Bruce stays IMO if we stay under Xias stewardship. Who else comes in if Bruce goes and we bounce from disaster to disaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jareth said: A lot depends on the truth of what is happening. If the club is completely broke and about to go into administration then Bruce would probably take another job. If Tony is capable of weathering the storm then Bruce may still take another job other, but he won't be sacked. Anyway, it looks like the manager situation is down on the list of priorities at this time. Not entirely. Whether financial difficulty is true or engineered we have yet another toxic environment which is causing rot at the club. That is going to have repercussions of its own and depending on how we recover from that will potentially determine how we fare on and off the pitch. So disappointing after we turned a corner as a club and had a good crack at promotion. To have serious conflict of interest at the very top is the last thing the club needs. I know Bruce has some flaws that don't seem to be changing in this lifetime, but he has character and enough competency to have obtained a fair amount of success in this division. He's not going to come up with anything revolutionary but his attitude and likeability alone might get players working hard for him. Team spirit could be paramount to our season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Quite annoying if his failure is now the reason he gets to keep his job. With the situation how it is, i would love a new manager to get behind. Just can't get inspired by bruce, his football and what will be constant moaning about the financial situation of the club. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Quite annoying if his failure is now the reason he gets to keep his job. With the situation how it is, i would love a new manager to get behind. Just can't get inspired by bruce, his football and what will be constant moaning about the financial situation of the club. I just hope we don’t give it to Calderwood or Agnew if Bruce walks , he stayed at hull until July before deciding he wanted out . ‘Would be a case of out of the frying pan into the fire . Edited June 6, 2018 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: Quite annoying if his failure is now the reason he gets to keep his job. With the situation how it is, i would love a new manager to get behind. Just can't get inspired by bruce, his football and what will be constant moaning about the financial situation of the club. This. Utterly ridiculous if Bruce is allowed to keep his job. He is most culpable in all of this. With a new manager we'd at least have a chance of seeing something resembling football at Villa Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, vreitti said: With a new manager we'd at least have a chance of seeing something resembling football at Villa Park. In league one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jareth said: In league one If that's what it takes. Getting it right long-term is all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 We need some sort of stability and if that means keeping Bruce on then I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, villarocker said: We need some sort of stability and if that means keeping Bruce on then I'm all for it. I think the Bruce business has decended in to a side issue.....I think its more to do with, whether he wants to stay. by the way, are we expecting to see Green grass when we return or Brown and an abandoned JCB 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, vreitti said: This. Utterly ridiculous if Bruce is allowed to keep his job. He is most culpable in all of this. With a new manager we'd at least have a chance of seeing something resembling football at Villa Park. As much as I agree with you the thought of Whelan and Jedinak playing a short passing game is a genuine fear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, vreitti said: This. Utterly ridiculous if Bruce is allowed to keep his job. He is most culpable in all of this. With a new manager we'd at least have a chance of seeing something resembling football at Villa Park. Not quite sure what you mean by “all of this” but I can confirm 100% that Steve Bruce is NOT responsible for the club’s failure to pay its tax bill the owner’s failure to make provision for running costs in view of the change in policy of his government that meant he couldn’t move money from China the utter rift between the owner and CEO that led to the CEO’s suspension These are the things that are top of my mind at present. When you say Steve Bruce’s is most culpable for “all of this” it would be interesting to know what you think is actually going on at the club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jareth said: In league one You think bruce is the only man who can keep us up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Not quite sure what you mean by “all of this” but I can confirm 100% that Steve Bruce is NOT responsible for the club’s failure to pay its tax bill the owner’s failure to make provision for running costs in view of the change in policy of his government that meant he couldn’t move money from China the utter rift between the owner and CEO that led to the CEO’s suspension These are the things that are top of my mind at present. When you say Steve Bruce’s is most culpable for “all of this” it would be interesting to know what you think is actually going on at the club. Bruce is down the list. But his failure over 18 months has cemented the issue right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Not quite sure what you mean by “all of this” but I can confirm 100% that Steve Bruce is NOT responsible for the club’s failure to pay its tax bill the owner’s failure to make provision for running costs in view of the change in policy of his government that meant he couldn’t move money from China the utter rift between the owner and CEO that led to the CEO’s suspension These are the things that are top of my mind at present. When you say Steve Bruce’s is most culpable for “all of this” it would be interesting to know what you think is actually going on at the club. Of course I'm not suggesting that. I'm just trying to look at the bigger picture here. Xia put his faith in Wyness et.co., whom recommended Bruce, and we all know what happened afterwards. Edited June 6, 2018 by vreitti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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