Dr_Pangloss Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Had a bad game but how can people say he is a waste of 9m been one of our better defenders certainly much better than that shite we had last season ...because at no stage has he looked like a £9m centre half. I also don't think he has played well at all this season, maybe the best of a bad bunch, but certainly not very good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just now, Dr_Pangloss said: ...because at no stage has he looked like a £9m centre half. I also don't think he has played well at all this season, maybe the best of a bad bunch, but certainly not very good at all. I think based his euro performance and his experience 9m is the going rate at the moment. He has been good in most games I think. Elphick and him have been inconsistent. the main reason I think this is a problem is because they are so over worked from such poor performances from midfield (Jedinak and Westwood) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I think based his euro performance and his experience 9m is the going rate at the moment. He has been good in most games I think. Elphick and him have been inconsistent. the main reason I think this is a problem is because they are so over worked from such poor performances from midfield (Jedinak and Westwood) I genuinely believe we could have signed someone for £2m-£3m who would be at least as effective at this level as Chester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I genuinely believe we could have signed someone for £2m-£3m who would be at least as effective at this level as Chester. Possibly but if you was manager after watching Chester in the euros would you pass a chance to sign him if he was willing to drop a division? It seemed like a real coup at the time and I still think he will get a lot better once we sort the mess out in midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I genuinely believe we could have signed someone for £2m-£3m who would be at least as effective at this level as Chester. Elphick.... Yeah Chester hasn't been that great so far. Him and Elphick don't really gel and he looks better in a back 3 for Wales but we've been terrible when we've played 3 at the back so more problems... Bruce did get good form out of him at Hull so should know what he's best at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 there's an issue here that goes beyond Chester. We all watched Clark be a total disaster for years. Now getting good reviews at Newcastle. Elphick was rated at Bournemouth, Chester at Hull yet they both come here and look terrible. what the actual hell goes on here? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: there's an issue here that goes beyond Chester. We all watched Clark be a total disaster for years. Now getting good reviews at Newcastle. Elphick was rated at Bournemouth, Chester at Hull yet they both come here and look terrible. what the actual hell goes on here? It's called: ASTON VILLA FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 said it before, an absolute dud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 19, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2016 Best player on the park, again. Completely dominant from start to finish. I have absolutely no idea why people are saying he's been no good for us, are you going by a couple of televised games only? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 On 10/16/2016 at 11:14, StefanAVFC said: there's an issue here that goes beyond Chester. We all watched Clark be a total disaster for years. Now getting good reviews at Newcastle. Elphick was rated at Bournemouth, Chester at Hull yet they both come here and look terrible. what the actual hell goes on here? It's not limited to defenders. Most of the players we sign are on apparent upward trajectory's, they join us, pull on the famous claret and blue and within 30 minutes their careers start nosediving. It's truly embarrassing when you look at the list of players we've signed over the past 5 or so years and how many have been successful here (by my reckoning, it's 1 - Benteke, that's it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: It's not limited to defenders. Most of the players we sign are on apparent upward trajectory's, they join us, pull on the famous claret and blue and within 30 minutes their careers start nosediving. It's truly embarrassing when you look at the list of players we've signed over the past 5 or so years and how many have been successful here (by my reckoning, it's 1 - Benteke, that's it) Shows how class Benteke is tbh. Didn't let us drag him down and in fact carried us on his back for 3 years. Can't believe he's at Palace now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 8 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Best player on the park, again. Completely dominant from start to finish. I have absolutely no idea why people are saying he's been no good for us, are you going by a couple of televised games only? For me Cheater an Elphick are too similar, they both need someone like Baker next to them to be the "big man". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 On 16 October 2016 at 13:13, Zatman said: said it before, an absolute dud He really isn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 On 10/16/2016 at 11:14, StefanAVFC said: what the actual hell goes on here? A string of terrible managers is the root of our problem. Good managers get the best out of bad players, bad managers make players look worse than they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimmyJimmer Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 9 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Best player on the park, again. Completely dominant from start to finish. I have absolutely no idea why people are saying he's been no good for us, are you going by a couple of televised games only? To be honest I haven't really noticed him much, which I suppose is a good thing. I did, however, go to the game Saturday, only my second of the season, and what did stand out was when bodvarson absolutey skinned him. I suppose the odd mistakes stand out more so when you're a centre half! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Cannot understand people saying Chester has been poor for us he has been our best defender by a country mile he hasn't put a foot wrong he is a really decent player at this level he just goes about his job no fuss which we had a few more like him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) 58 minutes ago, RimmyJimmer said: To be honest I haven't really noticed him much, which I suppose is a good thing. I did, however, go to the game Saturday, only my second of the season, and what did stand out was when bodvarson absolutey skinned him. I suppose the odd mistakes stand out more so when you're a centre half! Of course and he didn't have the best of games on Saturday. Not terrible, just average. It's hard for a centre half to resist so much pressure, game after game. The cracks will eventually show. Defenders get skinned from time to time too, it happens. I've not missed a game so far, though 3 were on TV/stream. I think he's been our most consistent player, whilst Ayew has been our 'best' by a distance he himself has had a couple of stinkers. I don't feel like Chester has, or will. He's so comfortable with the ball at his feet too, good enough to play centre mid at this level. Not that we should consider moving him of course. First defender on the team sheet for me. Edited October 19, 2016 by dont_do_it_doug. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Agree, although of itself that last sentence isn't saying much ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 2 hours ago, terrytini said: Agree, although of itself that last sentence isn't saying much ! True! I like to think as a Villa fan I know a defender when I see one. I'm astounded at some of the comments, imagine not rating James Chester 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Bruce has managed him before and will get the best out of him He hasn't even been that bad so far imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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