PieFacE Posted September 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2016 Absolute stinker today. Just weren't at it at all. Think he will forget about it and move on fine though. Seems a strong character. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Was his worst game in a villa shirt he isn't a top class defender but he is a top class leader really like the way he stopped Kodjia and Tish celebrating he wanted to go on and win the game it's more players like him that we need . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, BigAl said: Was his worst game in a villa shirt he isn't a top class defender but he is a top class leader really like the way he stopped Kodjia and Tish celebrating he wanted to go on and win the game it's more players like him that we need . This. He was terrible yesterday, but he does lead the team and is a fairly solid defender generally. Seems to have the character to write the game off and move forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 It's like he riles himself up so much that he makes mistakes. Separate the two and he will be good for this club, if he can't and we continue to expose him the same way he's going to have a good end of season real of clangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 He had a shocker yesterday, however he is still better than Richards and Lescott combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Is it me or does he seem a little overweight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Needs to learn what his left leg is for. All his mistakes come from his reluctance to use his left boot. Not over convinced tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Clark is better than Elphick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 1 minute ago, AntrimBlack said: Clark is better than Elphick. To be honest, Clark looks at least as good as both Elphick and Chester. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 That first half performance was arguably the worst centre half performance I've ever seen for Villa. When Clark and Baker were first being brought into the team, and they were being labelled the 'chuckle brothers', they were mostly making one absolute howler between them. Elphick made two howlers on his own, and in an easier division. The own goal was bad - just use your left foot FFS - but being robbed by Gayle on the edge of the area was even worse. I missed the second half, it sounds like he got better, so at least that shows some character. But one decent half of football doesn't make up for a one half of calamity, and I would hope he knows that. Must do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 If you are going to invite teams on to you then the risk that one of your defenders will f up becomes far greater. Chester and Elphick have looked comfortable in a lot of games aside from when we have sat deep and invited teams on to us. They aren't then helped by a lack of protection in front of them. Elphick had a shocker in the first half yesterday but he wasn't helped by the fact that we were way too negative and stemming the Newcastle tide pretty much right from kick off. I also don't think the 3 at the back suited any of the centre backs. Overall I would give him a six out of 10 from his performances so far and I think he can and will do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Looked better at start of season next to baker, and I'd say Chester probably would as well. Whilst he's not amazing Baker will go up for headers meaning the other player can sweep behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Is it me or does he seem a little overweight? Maybe it was an unflattering angle but at one point he was blowing and it looked like he had a bit of fat around his belly. Might be being harsh though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, markavfc40 said: If you are going to invite teams on to you then the risk that one of your defenders will f up becomes far greater. Chester and Elphick have looked comfortable in a lot of games aside from when we have sat deep and invited teams on to us. They aren't then helped by a lack of protection in front of them. Elphick had a shocker in the first half yesterday but he wasn't helped by the fact that we were way too negative and stemming the Newcastle tide pretty much right from kick off. I also don't think the 3 at the back suited any of the centre backs. Overall I would give him a six out of 10 from his performances so far and I think he can and will do better. I fully agree that if you invite teams on to you, the risk of mistakes becomes higher. However, for some unknown reason, he decided to mess about with the ball and got robbed on edge of his area instead of getting it away first time. The own goal, he should have been able to put it into the stand. Two personal errors that were avoidable, not dependent on inviting the other team onto us, in my opinion. Edited September 25, 2016 by AntrimBlack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 1 hour ago, AntrimBlack said: I fully agree that if you invite teams on to you, the risk of mistakes becomes higher. However, for some unknown reason, he decided to mess about with the ball and got robbed on edge of his area instead of getting it away first time. The own goal, he should have been able to put it into the stand. Two personal errors that were avoidable, not dependent on inviting the other team onto us, in my opinion. I'd agree with that. Like I said he had a shocker in the first half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 20 hours ago, Morley_crosses_to_Withe said: Shit! I'd have Clark back over this clown. Great idea by all involved to spend so much on attacking players, but next to **** all on the defence! Well that's not true. We spent £15m or so on the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 "Kick off gathers, and now my game begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my goal post. I am the defender in the darkness. I am the watcher of the balls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the nets of Gollini. I pledge my life and honor to the back four, for this game and all the games to come." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Brumerican said: "Kick off gathers, and now my game begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my goal post. I am the defender in the darkness. I am the watcher of the balls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the nets of Gollini. I pledge my life and honor to the back four, for this game and all the games to come." *Scores an own goal* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 3 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Well that's not true. We spent £15m or so on the defence. It was an exaggeration, somewhat, but still - a lot of that went on Chester. We bought a bargain basement defender in Elphick and we're getting performances reflective of his price tag. We needed two solid centre backs and more of the money should have been spent there. I can't believe Elphick was the best we could get given the supposed funds at our disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Chester is a far greater disappointment. He has looked crap and no where near the hefty sum we blew on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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