NurembergVillan Posted July 30, 2016 Moderator Share Posted July 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, jim said: Tony now saying we have many good players in the squad just the wrong management. Looks to me like he is getting his excuses in already. He said that they've had the wrong management. He's probably right. Grealish is looking back to his old self, Bacuna was industrious, and we don't know what he's seen in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 minute ago, NurembergVillan said: He said that they've had the wrong management. He's probably right. Grealish is looking back to his old self, Bacuna was industrious, and we don't know what he's seen in training. I'm not so sure. Outside of Grealish and Ayew the rest were pretty damn shite. Bacuna was awful outside of that cross which a half decent keeper would have claimed anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Unfortunately such a lackadaisical approach is going cost us. We need ruthless change, a manager to step in and immediately address the issues of last season, rather than someone who out of ignorance is going to repeat the same mistakes. Exactly. And what does he need to look at anyway!? Did he spend last season in a cave with his eyes closed and his fingers in his ears. He should know how bad some of this squad is just on last season's showing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 And again it's Di Matteo (according to Xia) that has said the good players have had the wrong management. Xia's just putting his faith in the football professionals, that he's hired. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 59 minutes ago, tismyk said: Or even baloney Shaun Maloney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 47 minutes ago, jim said: Looks to me like he is getting his excuses in already. Or speaking on the reality of what has been reported to him by a coaching staff which have had day to day interaction and observance of the group, as well as get paid millions to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, Pilchard said: Shaun Maloney ITK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonVilla Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 hour ago, jim said: Tony now saying we have many good players in the squad just the wrong management. Looks to me like he is getting his excuses in already. I think the money for player spend (£30m, £40m) is there and Xia had every intention of spending it when he said this. RDM has obviously looked at the squad and been impressed by the quality (worrying!), feels strong management can improve attitudes / resilience etc, and has not yet really gone to Xia cap in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 A bad defeat at Sheff Weds (which looks more likely than a decent win to me) and we'll sign 2-3 before Rotherham I reckon. It's always the way of clubs to knee jerk after a bad defeat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, VillaChris said: A bad defeat at Sheff Weds (which looks more likely than a decent win to me) and we'll sign 2-3 before Rotherham I reckon. It's always the way of clubs to knee jerk after a bad defeat. I hope you are right. The past few years it has seemed nothing causes the club to panic. They always smugly nod and insist they know what they are doing. Now is the time for knee jerk reactions and panic buys. Our squad is terrible. They are not going to come good, we do not have a good "spine" of a team. We are awful. Spend and spend big now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 there are atleast 5 that should never play since one they do badly the crowd will be on them and the rest of the team will suffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Deals take time. Selling clubs hold out. It's difficult business. One thing I'm sure if is that they're trying to get new players in. It's not like before, where we were actively trying to not spend money. I don't think there is any reason to believe they would lie about wanting to shift a few players and sign a few. Hopefully the hard work they put in to deals pays off. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Usually teams shouldn't panic. After last season and the remarkable resemblance in performances these past two games I think we have every reason why we should panic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSmith22 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Palace lost 3-1 to Fulham today after going unbeaten in all other preseason fixtures. Preseason matters very little. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted July 30, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, NSmith22 said: Palace lost 3-1 to Fulham today after going unbeaten in all other preseason fixtures. Preseason matters very little. No, pre-season results matter very little. What does matter is when you see the same issues in a side heading into a season as resulted in you being relegated the season before. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSmith22 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: No, pre-season results matter very little. What does matter is when you see the same issues in a side heading into a season as resulted in you being relegated the season before. Agreed and I said as much in the promotion thread on Boro's 2nd goal. But I still feel as though at least 3 or 4 players that started today won't be starting the majority of our league fixtures this season. I'm concerned like everyone else but I think it's too early to get extremely worked up over the game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 30, 2016 Moderator Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 minute ago, NSmith22 said: Agreed and I said as much in the promotion thread on Boro's 2nd goal. But I still feel as though at least 3 or 4 players that started today won't be starting the majority of our league fixtures this season. I'm concerned like everyone else but I think it's too early to get extremely worked up over the game today. I agree as the outcome today was largely what I expected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 we have been woeful accross the field for 3+ seasons . So no preseason doesnt matter but the fact we have been terrible for so long and it doesnt look like its changing yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Pilchard said: Shaun Maloney Who, that phoney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, NSmith22 said: Agreed and I said as much in the promotion thread on Boro's 2nd goal. But I still feel as though at least 3 or 4 players that started today won't be starting the majority of our league fixtures this season. I'm concerned like everyone else but I think it's too early to get extremely worked up over the game today. sadly I think that will be our mainly starting XI minus Amavi for Cissokho and Tshibola for Gardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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