Folski Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 You're comparing a true attacking mid/winger to a more defensive minded mid. That is like comparing Hazard to Matic essentially. They have completely different roles. Really? Joe Cole for me has always been the rich mans Lee Hendrie not a winger at least in the pacey Robben mould, not an AMC in the Riqueleme mould. Joe Cole's never had 7 assists in the League in all his career yet Westwood had, albeit 2 seasons ago but he was playing in a pretty brutal team, he got deeper and deeper every season under Lambert who saw us concede a ridiculous amount of goals in his first year (69 year 1, 61 year 2, 45 at the moment). Westwood isn't a defensive midfielder, he's 5 foot 9, Matic is 6 foot 4. I think Westwood is the poor mans Carrick, but I think he is definitely an asset, I don't doubt for a second he could sit behind a front 2 picking passes he just hasn't got the chance. When you think of him you don't think of the flashiness associated with a Grealish or Cole but the man can definitely pick a pass. maybe im misinterpreting this but you are suggesting that Joe Cole of nearly 50 England caps, 10 years at Chelsea and 3 league titles and many other trophies has never been as good as Westwood No I'm saying 33 year old Joe Cole who's started 2 games this year isn't as good as Westwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 yet from only 2 starts and 1500 less minutes he has the same amount of assists as Westwood and even has a goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 A minor consideration I know but Luongo would be a bit of a marketing coup. Not only would the club's profile rise in Australia but also Indonesia which is a hugely untapped market. Luongo's mother is Indonesian and although he has never been there he is one of the most popular sportsmen in that country. If he moved to a Premier league club that popularity would explode IMO. Of course all the shirt sales would be knock-offs ... I remember during the Asian Cup, whenever the commentators would mention Luongo, the words "Swindon Town" were usually in the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted April 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2015 We need another Aussie at the club.... ... if only to erase the memory of our last 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Not knowing if we are safe yet, or who the new owners will be and how much money they plan to spend renders this thread a bit premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted April 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2015 Not knowing if we are safe yet, or who the new owners will be and how much money they plan to spend renders this thread a bit premature. I'd suggest that's exactly what makes it interesting for those contributing to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 yet from only 2 starts and 1500 less minutes he has the same amount of assists as Westwood and even has a goal Heskey scored more goals than Guzan has - bring him back!! I'm just being facetious but they're clearly different players in different positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 we have mentioned it a few times they are different players but Folski still wants to compare them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) The argument on the last page about Westwood not being a DM because he's only 5 foot 9 whereas DMs have to be 6 foot 4 because Matic is was where I stopped reading. Edited April 17, 2015 by AvfcTheObsession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Andre Ayew on a free anyone? We was interested in January and he is out of contract in the summer. Fabian Schar (Basel) is a towering, goalscoring defender who is also out of contract.. Edited April 17, 2015 by Villan4Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The argument on the last page about Westwood not being a DM because he's only 5 foot 9 whereas DMs have to be 6 foot 4 because Matic is was where I stopped reading. He's not really a DM because he's not very good at tackling. I appreciate he often plays in that position, but I don't think that's his strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Andre Ayew on a free anyone? We was interested in January and he is out of contract in the summer. Fabian Schar (Basel) is a towering, goalscoring defender who is also out of contract.. Schar is a beast and if we could get him, it'd be an excellent signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Andre Ayew on a free anyone? We was interested in January and he is out of contract in the summer. Fabian Schar (Basel) is a towering, goalscoring defender who is also out of contract.. I think Ayew's wages will be out of our structure Unless we get taken over Is Schar better than Vlaar? Edited April 17, 2015 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Outside of PSG, French teams don't pay massive amounts so think Ayew would only be on 30k or thereabouts although obviously other clubs will be offering him decent wage rises. Still releasing Bent and 60k off the wage bill should give us a little flexibility in the attacking areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfctom89 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I think if Burnley or qpr go down , I would seriously put a bid in for ings or Austin , outside the top 6 or 7 ( maybe a step to far ) think it will be fair game for them .. also I'd have hoillet and mahrez probably would be cheap as well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Outside of PSG, French teams don't pay massive amounts so think Ayew would only be on 30k or thereabouts Wikipedia (I know) puts his salary at 3.2m euros a year, or 45k in sterling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Andre Ayew on a free anyone? We was interested in January and he is out of contract in the summer. Fabian Schar (Basel) is a towering, goalscoring defender who is also out of contract.. I think Ayew's wages will be out of our structure Unless we get taken over Is Schar better than Vlaar? No not at the moment, but Schar is 23 and has tremendous upside. His partnership with Suchy (Czech) has been great. He had a great match against Real Madrid in the champions league this season which got him some attention. I actually know a bit about Schar because 2 Czech internationals play for Basil. West Ham and Spurs are apparently interested as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Ayew is on 70k Euro a week reportedly but that was from a couple of seasons ago. He wants to go to Liverpool badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Schär is already as good as Vlaar, if not better. I can't see us being a realistic destination however. He has been long coveted by big clubs and quite a few need a new centre-back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Fabian Schar (Basel) is a towering, goalscoring defender who is also out of contract.. Good player from what I've seen, but... 6'1" is towering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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