Mantis Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 If I were Sherwood, I would negotiate an immediate resignation. That's his most dignified, face-saving option at this point. The club aren't behind him any more. Something's switched.I haven't really been on here much over the past week. What's happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) This Rodgers talk is where I get off I'm afraid . . . If he's the best choice then I hope Sherwood stays. I say that not because of anything personal, I've joined in the 'Brenton' mickey-taking but I'm sure he's alright really, that's not my issue. My issue is that I can't see how he can turn this club around. I mean, look, we're always laughing on here at 'Tactics Tim', can't set out a team, doesn't know his best XI, etc etc. Yet now I'm supposed to suddenly be on board with a guy who has spent the last 18 months pretending Emre Can is a right-sided centre back? A blind man could have told him Sakho is twice the player Lovren is, yet it took an injury to Lovren before Sakho appeared this season. Look, I've said it before, but if he couldn't organise a defence with Lovren, Moreno, Clyne and Skrtel, how the **** do we expect him to organise Amavi, Lescott, Richards and Bacuna? I just don't see it, sorry. I genuinely don't think he'll be any improvement at all. Edited October 11, 2015 by HanoiVillan grammar 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Totally agree HanoivillanVery well put! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted October 11, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2015 This Rodgers talk is where I get off I'm afraid . . . If he's the best choice then I hope Sherwood stays. I say that not because of anything personal, I've joined in the 'Brenton' mickey-taking but I'm sure he's alright really, that's not my issue. My issue is that I can't see how he can turn this club around. I mean, look, we're always laughing on here at 'Tactics Tim', can't set out a team, doesn't know his best XI, etc etc. Yet now I'm supposed to suddenly be on board with a guy who has spent the last 18 months pretending Emre Can is a right-sided centre back? A blind man could have told Sakho is twice the player Lovren is, it took an injury to Lovren before Sakho appeared this season. Look, I've said it before, but if he couldn't organise a defence with Lovren, Moreno, Clyne and Skrtel, how the **** do we expect him to organise Amavi, Lescott, Richards and Bacuna? I just don't see it, sorry. I genuinely don't think he'll be any improvement at all. I fear you may be right. But Tim has become non-viable by excuse-making with transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted October 11, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2015 If I were Sherwood, I would negotiate an immediate resignation. That's his most dignified, face-saving option at this point. The club aren't behind him any more. Something's switched.I haven't really been on here much over the past week. What's happened?Tim has been given two games to turn it around. The club wouldn't have leaked that if they weren't trying to tell potentials buyers and fans that, hey, we're seeing an end to Tim's reign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 If I were Sherwood, I would negotiate an immediate resignation. That's his most dignified, face-saving option at this point. The club aren't behind him any more. Something's switched.I haven't really been on here much over the past week. What's happened?nothing but an extra 7 days for newspapers to fill columns, fans to stew over the current situation. Also silence is deafening, or silent, depending on which way you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneNightInRotterdam Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) This Rodgers talk is where I get off I'm afraid . . . If he's the best choice then I hope Sherwood stays. I say that not because of anything personal, I've joined in the 'Brenton' mickey-taking but I'm sure he's alright really, that's not my issue. My issue is that I can't see how he can turn this club around. I mean, look, we're always laughing on here at 'Tactics Tim', can't set out a team, doesn't know his best XI, etc etc. Yet now I'm supposed to suddenly be on board with a guy who has spent the last 18 months pretending Emre Can is a right-sided centre back? A blind man could have told Sakho is twice the player Lovren is, it took an injury to Lovren before Sakho appeared this season. Look, I've said it before, but if he couldn't organise a defence with Lovren, Moreno, Clyne and Skrtel, how the **** do we expect him to organise Amavi, Lescott, Richards and Bacuna? I just don't see it, sorry. I genuinely don't think he'll be any improvement at all. I think he would improve us slightly and would certainly take him over Sherwood but I agree with the rest of your post. We won't get Moyes or an Exotic foreign coach.We'll end up with Rodgers, Dyche or Pearson IMO. I wish I could joke, we all know they are most likely.Lerner hasn't had best of luck with managers. Edited October 11, 2015 by OneNightInRotterdam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristchurchVillan Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Would Flores jump ship from Watford, could be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 So what happens to him if he gets a result at Chelsea or Swansea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 11, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2015 A few pages back I Saw someone ask why are talking about/interested in Rodgers.The answer is simple, he is an experienced PL manager currently out of work.Whatever his faults that would be a marked improvement on someone who is pretending to be a manager and sadly isn't.Lambert was supposed to be a marked improvement on Mcleish.Sherwood was supposed to be a makrked improvement on Lambert.lets hope (next time) that the powers that be make a decision based on better criteria than experienced,PL manager out of work.**** it, let's TRY and get the best we can get, even if that means tapping some bugger up.Lambert was an improvement on McLeish. Some of us knew before he was appointed that Sherwood wouldn't be an improvement on Lambert. i said it before, but there's a difference between PL experience and proven PL experience. We need the latter. That shouldn't mean we settle for the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 11, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2015 This Rodgers talk is where I get off I'm afraid . . . If he's the best choice then I hope Sherwood stays. I say that not because of anything personal, I've joined in the 'Brenton' mickey-taking but I'm sure he's alright really, that's not my issue. My issue is that I can't see how he can turn this club around. I mean, look, we're always laughing on here at 'Tactics Tim', can't set out a team, doesn't know his best XI, etc etc. Yet now I'm supposed to suddenly be on board with a guy who has spent the last 18 months pretending Emre Can is a right-sided centre back? A blind man could have told him Sakho is twice the player Lovren is, yet it took an injury to Lovren before Sakho appeared this season. Look, I've said it before, but if he couldn't organise a defence with Lovren, Moreno, Clyne and Skrtel, how the **** do we expect him to organise Amavi, Lescott, Richards and Bacuna? I just don't see it, sorry. I genuinely don't think he'll be any improvement at all. Id literally bet my mother on him being an improvement on sherwood. In fact speaking of my mother, she'd probably be a better choice too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 So what happens to him if he gets a result at Chelsea or Swansea?We'll muddle on, lose at Spurs and at home to City and he'll be sacked in the November international break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 This Rodgers talk is where I get off I'm afraid . . . If he's the best choice then I hope Sherwood stays. I say that not because of anything personal, I've joined in the 'Brenton' mickey-taking but I'm sure he's alright really, that's not my issue. My issue is that I can't see how he can turn this club around. I mean, look, we're always laughing on here at 'Tactics Tim', can't set out a team, doesn't know his best XI, etc etc. Yet now I'm supposed to suddenly be on board with a guy who has spent the last 18 months pretending Emre Can is a right-sided centre back? A blind man could have told Sakho is twice the player Lovren is, it took an injury to Lovren before Sakho appeared this season. Look, I've said it before, but if he couldn't organise a defence with Lovren, Moreno, Clyne and Skrtel, how the **** do we expect him to organise Amavi, Lescott, Richards and Bacuna? I just don't see it, sorry. I genuinely don't think he'll be any improvement at all. Tim has become non-viable by excuse-making with transfers.Or become non-viable by telling it how it is????? If he wanted Cambiasso,Townsend,Lennon and Adebayor and ended up with Veretout, Ayew, Gestede etc you could understand him being pissed off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 This Rodgers talk is where I get off I'm afraid . . . If he's the best choice then I hope Sherwood stays. I say that not because of anything personal, I've joined in the 'Brenton' mickey-taking but I'm sure he's alright really, that's not my issue. My issue is that I can't see how he can turn this club around. I mean, look, we're always laughing on here at 'Tactics Tim', can't set out a team, doesn't know his best XI, etc etc. Yet now I'm supposed to suddenly be on board with a guy who has spent the last 18 months pretending Emre Can is a right-sided centre back? A blind man could have told him Sakho is twice the player Lovren is, yet it took an injury to Lovren before Sakho appeared this season. Look, I've said it before, but if he couldn't organise a defence with Lovren, Moreno, Clyne and Skrtel, how the **** do we expect him to organise Amavi, Lescott, Richards and Bacuna? I just don't see it, sorry. I genuinely don't think he'll be any improvement at all. Sometimes managers fit certain clubs and expectations at clubs. I have no idea if Rodgers will be that man but he won't have to wait long to pick up another prem job imo.Look at Pardew, derided at Newcastle but at Palace the fans and board are well behind him and he's produced a team that won't be far off the top 6 this year. Sometimes certain managers fit certain clubs perfectly. We might eventually find one after the next 10 managerial changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I rather doubt Rodgers would fancy the job: would he be confident he could keep us up? It's a tough call for anybody, and I think Rodgers may well feel it's too much of a risk for his reputation. He can afford to wait for a better opportunity. We need somebody who's more desperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 This Rodgers talk is where I get off I'm afraid . . . If he's the best choice then I hope Sherwood stays. I say that not because of anything personal, I've joined in the 'Brenton' mickey-taking but I'm sure he's alright really, that's not my issue. My issue is that I can't see how he can turn this club around. I mean, look, we're always laughing on here at 'Tactics Tim', can't set out a team, doesn't know his best XI, etc etc. Yet now I'm supposed to suddenly be on board with a guy who has spent the last 18 months pretending Emre Can is a right-sided centre back? A blind man could have told him Sakho is twice the player Lovren is, yet it took an injury to Lovren before Sakho appeared this season. Look, I've said it before, but if he couldn't organise a defence with Lovren, Moreno, Clyne and Skrtel, how the **** do we expect him to organise Amavi, Lescott, Richards and Bacuna? I just don't see it, sorry. I genuinely don't think he'll be any improvement at all. Id literally bet my mother on him being an improvement on sherwood. In fact speaking of my mother, she'd probably be a better choice too. Vicious cycle when you think about it, I'm sure we all said the same thing regarding Tim replacing Lambert.Rodgers would be great if he could recuperate his days at Swansea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Surely Sherwood won't take this so easily and will soon start spouting off to the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 This Rodgers talk is where I get off I'm afraid . . . If he's the best choice then I hope Sherwood stays. I say that not because of anything personal, I've joined in the 'Brenton' mickey-taking but I'm sure he's alright really, that's not my issue. My issue is that I can't see how he can turn this club around. I mean, look, we're always laughing on here at 'Tactics Tim', can't set out a team, doesn't know his best XI, etc etc. Yet now I'm supposed to suddenly be on board with a guy who has spent the last 18 months pretending Emre Can is a right-sided centre back? A blind man could have told him Sakho is twice the player Lovren is, yet it took an injury to Lovren before Sakho appeared this season. Look, I've said it before, but if he couldn't organise a defence with Lovren, Moreno, Clyne and Skrtel, how the **** do we expect him to organise Amavi, Lescott, Richards and Bacuna? I just don't see it, sorry. I genuinely don't think he'll be any improvement at all. Id literally bet my mother on him being an improvement on sherwood. In fact speaking of my mother, she'd probably be a better choice too. Vicious cycle when you think about it, I'm sure we all said the same thing regarding Tim replacing Lambert.Rodgers would be great if he could recuperate his days at Swansea.Not a chance he could that, Swansea had been playing the same way for years before he got there under Sousa and Martinez, he only had to tweak things. Aston Villa have not played that way consistantly since Big Ron, to be fair the current squad can barely string 2 passes together on a regular basis so the Rodgers style would be almost impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I think there is little chance that Rodgers will come here, then only reason I think it's a small possibility is because of the Reilly link.He's only just been sacked from Liverpool and he'll probably want some time off. Why would he come here? Work under a chairman that has no interest in the club? To try and save us from relegation that we've been flirting with for the past five years? Maybe next summer but not now. This job is a difficult one and not a lot of glory in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powell91 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I rather doubt Rodgers would fancy the job: would he be confident he could keep us up? It's a tough call for anybody, and I think Rodgers may well feel it's too much of a risk for his reputation. He can afford to wait for a better opportunity. We need somebody who's more desperate The irony if he were to join us after taking away one of our greatest players to ever wear the shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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