Denaldinho Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Regardless of whether we are taken over or not and how much they plan to spend I'd like us to look abroad and get someone progressive in. Why look abroad? i think, Brendan Rogers is the best example of the NEW manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think lambert should get a chance under the new ownership. His big signings have seemed decent, Okore and Kozak, but we're unfortunate with injuries. Benteke has been excellent. His less underwhelming signings have been through serious budget constraints. Tactically, I don't think he's been that bad, he just hasn't had the squad to play around with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I'd still look abroad personally. British managers can play nice football, but the majority of them tend to prefer a style similar to Moyes/ O'Neill/ Lambert etc. A Spanish manager, for example, brought up with a culture of passing and buying attacks, would be more likely to coach a team in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted April 21, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 21, 2014 'Admin' from TheBellsAreRinging, is the person who broke Culverhouse and Karsa going and also that there was a takeover, way before those stories came out else where. He said there had already been an approach for a manager who was 'exciting'. Assuming he's as right about that as he has been about everything else, then one would assume that that manager is currently out of work if we have already spoken to them. Suppose we could have broken some rules to approach those already in jobs though. Bielsa matches the profile of somebody out of work who would be exciting though. Top manager. Frank Rijkaard? Guus Hiddink? Bring Jupp Heynckes out of retirement? Heynckes would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Regardless of whether we are taken over or not and how much they plan to spend I'd like us to look abroad and get someone progressive in. Why look abroad? i think, Brendan Rogers is the best example of the NEW manager. ..and how many of those are around? That's a genuine question. I think many fans are fed up of the kick and rush football we've had served up over the last 8 years by British manager (Houllier excluded of course). Kick and rush gets you no where and wins you absolutely nothing in this day and age. I think what many fans crave is a bright manager who sets up to play attractive football. If there's a British 'one of those' around then great but it's not clear that there's many about, hence why many want us to look abroad. Edited April 21, 2014 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I really couldn't care less about the manager's nationality, nor his playing style if it's effective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjacobjr Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I would be on for giving lambert one more season with some proper investment if the take over goes through and that looks likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Regardless of whether we are taken over or not and how much they plan to spend I'd like us to look abroad and get someone progressive in. Yay, stop the internet, we agree on something at last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 21, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think the manager will be an indication of the players we'll be looking at getting in - in some respects one of the biggest 'talents' a manager needs is the ability to attract players - which means they've got to have heard of him and respect him. Two ways to get this - either with a massively successful manager, a Klopp or a Hiddink or whatever, which I think is unlikely; or with someone who played the game at a very high level and shows some managerial promise. Lambert actually fits into that second bracket, but I'm not sure his playing fame or managerial record is now quite where we'd need it to be to attract really good players - if we go with a new manager I think we'll be looking at a new-ish manager who was a very good and very famous player. What's that Dutch bloke called? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think the manager will be an indication of the players we'll be looking at getting in - in some respects one of the biggest 'talents' a manager needs is the ability to attract players - which means they've got to have heard of him and respect him. Two ways to get this - either with a massively successful manager, a Klopp or a Hiddink or whatever, which I think is unlikely; or with someone who played the game at a very high level and shows some managerial promise. Lambert actually fits into that second bracket, but I'm not sure his playing fame or managerial record is now quite where we'd need it to be to attract really good players - if we go with a new manager I think we'll be looking at a new-ish manager who was a very good and very famous player. What's that Dutch bloke called? Schteve McLaren? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Paul Lambert represents an Aston Villa that has become a laughing stock. If new owners come in PL will be sacked. It may well not be PL's fault but he is inextricably linked with the Premiership's biggest joke. End of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Nearly all the papers are reporting that Moyes is on his way. I wonder how many would be keen to take a chance on him after this season, not only here but other clubs as well. Personally think United were punching well above their weight for the past couple of seasons & whoever took over fromSAF was on a hiding to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 21, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 21, 2014 De Boer and Bergkamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If Randy was to stick around I'm almost certain that he'd go for Moyes if he becomes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If Randy was to stick around I'm almost certain that he'd go for Moyes if he becomes available. I'll wager we still get Moyes if he gets sacked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Whoever it is, I want someone with a footballing philosophy. And one that will be passed down to subsequent managers. Aston Villa needs to reinvent itself and get an identity for the long haul. Not keep appointing contrasting managers and having things ripped up every few years. I want to see a FOOTBALL team. No quick fix managers who just buy a ton of big name players and try and throw them into a team, I want a PLAN and a VISION put in place that will last for decades. Not a Lambert style plan obviously, I want a manager that can actually coach and manage the players he has into becoming better ones. One that can talk an intelligent game, not only to the media but can visibly show it through his players on the pitch as they carry out his plan. I don't want another footballing dinosaur, trying to play an old way that's as dated and boring as the whole club must look from the outside looking in. New dawn, new playing style and a long term footballing philosophy.And certainly not **** Moyes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradarmstrong_ Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Would be no pressure for Moyes if he came here. I think he'd do a good job. Proven record at working a club the same size as us and on a similar budged. United is just too big for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Moyes is hardly renowned for the entertaining style of football that many on here crave. Although Everton were always a very hard side to beat & breakdown, the way that they won wasn't pretty.Quit often they'd play with just one up top. Possibly the biggest success for Moyes at Everton were his signings-I can't think of one that backfired or that I wouldn't have liked to have seen in our side when we were going head to head with them. Would personally give Lambert 12 months to show what he can do with a sensible budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 The next Villa manager has to be a damned good coach. That would mean that Moyes and Lambert wouldn't be on the short list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Wouldn't say no to Moyes. If we went down we should try and get him in to help him rebuild his slightly dented reputation. All this talk of Klopp is a bit much IMO. I can see Simeone going somewhere in the summer, with Klopp potentially poached by Atletico Madrid. We'd need to have owners who were willing to spend £200m on new players to get someone like Klopp in. Athough I can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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