Robbie09 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 According to someone I know at Wednesday, his ability isn't the issue, he's struggling to get his fitness levels up. That's what prevented him from getting more game time there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted March 22, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted March 22, 2014 It's real shame that Gardner hasn't made the grade. It may well have all gone to his head (or other issues) but I also think that we the fans forget how difficult it is is for the Academy players to cope with not only our expectation but more importantly their own. Gary was tipped as 'the next big thing" and in his first few appearances for the first team he looked OK but didn't really make a difference in a struggling team - however did he get a fair crack of the whip? He was very, very good In his younger days, so what happened? He didn't become a shit player overnight. Despite all the flak fans receive there are many out there who know a player when they see one and GG was tipped as one to watch. I have no idea what the real problem is, but I still reckon GG has talent and can make the grade. However I wonder if he still believes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 There are more players who were tipped to be the next big thing that fail to fulfill that promise than players tipped to star who actually go on and do it. So it is not that unusual that Gardner didn't make the step up, or the Moores, or the Fonz etc. There are so many reasons why it might not work out and even just dumb luck can play a significant part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) He's had, what, 3 serious injuries in prime years for his development? Two to his cruciate ligament? It's not hard to guess what the real problem is. Edited March 22, 2014 by Rovers13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 It's real shame that Gardner hasn't made the grade. It may well have all gone to his head (or other issues) but I also think that we the fans forget how difficult it is is for the Academy players to cope with not only our expectation but more importantly their own. Gary was tipped as 'the next big thing" and in his first few appearances for the first team he looked OK but didn't really make a difference in a struggling team - however did he get a fair crack of the whip? He was very, very good In his younger days, so what happened? He didn't become a shit player overnight. Despite all the flak fans receive there are many out there who know a player when they see one and GG was tipped as one to watch. I have no idea what the real problem is, but I still reckon GG has talent and can make the grade. However I wonder if he still believes.... Gardners issue is the injuries he picked up have affected his chances and development. I have seen nothing to question his attitude, belief or commitment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 It's real shame that Gardner hasn't made the grade. It may well have all gone to his head (or other issues) but I also think that we the fans forget how difficult it is is for the Academy players to cope with not only our expectation but more importantly their own. Gary was tipped as 'the next big thing" and in his first few appearances for the first team he looked OK but didn't really make a difference in a struggling team - however did he get a fair crack of the whip? He was very, very good In his younger days, so what happened? He didn't become a shit player overnight. Despite all the flak fans receive there are many out there who know a player when they see one and GG was tipped as one to watch. I have no idea what the real problem is, but I still reckon GG has talent and can make the grade. However I wonder if he still believes.... Gardners issue is the injuries he picked up have affected his chances and development. I have seen nothing to question his attitude, belief or commitment Purely and simply down to fitness. He's struggling to get back to match tempo because he's hardly played for the last 2 seasons. It's a real shame and I hope we give him another year especially as we have seen how Delph has developed after overcoming injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 If he stays another year he won't get the games he needs with us. I think it's best for him he went elsewhere, sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 ^This. Come the end of the season, Gardner will turn 22, which means if he's given a new contract he'll be one of the 25-man squad. He's currently in roughly this place in the pecking order: Delph Westwood El Ahmadi Bacuna-as-CM-and-Lowton-as-RB N'Zogbia? Sylla Gardner? . . . and that's just if we don't sign anyone who can play in central midfield in the summer. He needs game time if he's going to make it as a footballer. If we know, really know, that there's a team who'll take him on a season long loan, including a full pre-season, and will play him most of the time, then maybe. But we need to consider whether a 7th choice CM who hasn't played a PL minute in 2 years is a sensible choice in a 25-man squad. I like him, and I hope he succeeds in his career. That might mean that it's best pursued somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Edited March 27, 2014 by Farlz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Feel so sorry for him, doubt he'll get a new deal here now sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Luc Nilis anyone....it can happen to the best and the worst, it can happen at the start of your career and at the end. its football,sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Chin up Gary, you have the ability in abundance but sadly no luck to accompany it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) it probably depends on whether we can get in anyone as good as Gardner could still become. if we had to let him go to a Championship team I'd like us to have first dibs on buying him back. give him a 1 year contract then hawk him for free £1 with a buy-back clause attached. Edited March 27, 2014 by Con Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The injuries have knackered him sadly although the way MM is going you'd think he'd had a dead leg instead of a cruciate!! Think we'll let him go and hopefully he can build a career in the lower leagues and not go off course like say Michael Johnson did after getting injured at Man. City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted March 28, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted March 28, 2014 There's still time for him, as has been mentioned on here already look how long it took delph to get sorted out. I'd give him a years extension and get him right for preseason and see how we go from there. If he's not showing a good enough level for the bench come the start of the season get him out on a loan till Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted March 28, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted March 28, 2014 He is not injured again is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 man of glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjacobjr Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Don't think he will ever be seen in the claret and blue again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 It's real shame that Gardner hasn't made the grade. It may well have all gone to his head (or other issues) but I also think that we the fans forget how difficult it is is for the Academy players to cope with not only our expectation but more importantly their own. Gary was tipped as 'the next big thing" and in his first few appearances for the first team he looked OK but didn't really make a difference in a struggling team - however did he get a fair crack of the whip? He was very, very good In his younger days, so what happened? He didn't become a shit player overnight. Despite all the flak fans receive there are many out there who know a player when they see one and GG was tipped as one to watch. I have no idea what the real problem is, but I still reckon GG has talent and can make the grade. However I wonder if he still believes.... Do you have any idea how much work goes into coming back from a cruciate? You are on here questioning his mentality? Amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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