VillaChris Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Genie is proper disciple...counting the community shield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonesy7211 Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) David Squires in the Guardian. Quote David Squires on … Ole Gunnar Solskjær’s Manchester United exit Our cartoonist on the Norwegian’s inevitable sacking and some expert advice on who should replace him https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2021/nov/23/david-squires-on-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-manchester-united-exit?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other This is the best one ever, if only for the ending. Spat my tea everywhere. Edited November 23, 2021 by Jonesy7211 Spelling 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Genie said: Man United - Post Fergie era Highest PL points tally = Mourinho Most finals = Mourinho Most titles = Mourinho Least PL home defeat = Mourinho Highest win ratio = Mourinho Trophies won by Manchester United managers after Sir Alex Ferguson: Jose Mourinho - 3 Trophies won Louis van Gaal - 1 Trophy won David Moyes - 1 Trophy won Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 0 Trophies won Wasn't a Yanited man. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Genie is proper disciple...counting the community shield. It’s a trophy, we’d be pissing our pants on this board of Villa were in a position to be winning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 44 minutes ago, Genie said: It’s a trophy, we’d be pissing our pants on this board of Villa were in a position to be winning it. Well we would have already won a trophy to play in it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 41 minutes ago, Zatman said: Well we would have already won a trophy to play in it Not necessarily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 22 hours ago, Xela said: I looked up historic managers and their win ratios after you mentioned Fergie's 59% Matt Busby - 50% Bill Shankly - 52% Bob Paisley - 57% Brian Clough - 48% (Derby) Brian Clough - 47% (Forest) I think that shows how tough the leagues used to be. Literally anyone could beat anyone and often did! Nowadays the gap between the top and bottom in the league is vast and there are far more predictable results. The points structure was different in those times remember. How games were approached and managed skews the numbers a little. Bill and Bob for example have a lot of titles between them, (well done Bill and Bob ) but they have a lower win % than I would have guessed but they still won all those titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: The points structure was different in those times remember. How games were approached and managed skews the numbers a little. Bill and Bob for example have a lot of titles between them, (well done Bill and Bob ) but they have a lower win % than I would have guessed but they still won all those titles. Oh absolutely, the leagues were tougher as well. Ron Saunders said you needed to win 25 games to deserve the title (in a 42 game season). Plus as you say, 2 points for a win back then. Even in 3 point win seasons in the 90's the leagues were tougher. 96/97. Man Utd won the league with 75 points. Newcastle were second with 68! Middlesbrough were 19th with 39 points. 29 points between 2nd and 2nd bottom. in 18/19 that gap was 71 points. Ok, they are extreme ends but the gap between the top and bottom in the Premier league is huge now. Before, it was there, but you could make an impact. Villa were 5th that year (96/97) with 61 points and 17 wins in 38 (44.7% win rate) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) I think the late 60s to early 70s also was when the league was most competetive. as well. United, City, Everton, Derby, Leeds all winning the league with very good teams yet it was hard to dominate. What was Revie's win percentage at Leeds because they were the standout team of that era. ps. Just looked it up it was 53.2% Edited November 23, 2021 by PaulC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Speaking to Valverde for the interim job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Have to agree with Carra here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 22/11/2021 at 09:29, Mic09 said: Isn't it quicker to get from Paris to London on a train than to get to Manchester from London? Yeah, they ought to think up a way to solve that issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 This is nuts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 still got 2 years left on his contract in a combined 42 years at the club jones, smalling, rojo, bailly, lindelof, tuanzebe have 3 seasons between them where they've played 30+ games (lindelhof 2 smalling 1) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 75k a week, apparently, and he's not played in 2 years. Probably won't play for another 2 years either. It's been very clear he's nowhere near good enough, he could have had a decent career elsewhere but that's an obscene amount of money to walk away from. His family is set for generations and all he has to do is turn up for training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Wow, incredible they gave him such a lucrative long term deal. Who else would they be competing with for his signature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) Thing is no matter how bad they are run they are a cash cow and will continue to generate millions for the Glazers with all the official pot noodle suppliers sponsors of Manchester United etc. They will have to be basically deliberately run into the ground for them to ever stop being a regular top 6 club due to the huge amount of global supporters/followers they have, thanks to the history of being successful under Ferguson and Busby. Only 3 managers at United have actually won the league title. Edited November 24, 2021 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, Genie said: Wow, incredible they gave him such a lucrative long term deal. Who else would they be competing with for his signature? Probably Steve Bruce Aston Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 No, what are you doing??! Bruce is much better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jono62 said: No, what are you doing??! Bruce is much better. Please be wrong just so that prick Ornstein can be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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