Keyblade Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Zatman said: David Silva might be 33/34 but much better than Pogba, De Bruyne has been playing deep a lot too. Fabinho, Kante, are all better centre midfielders than Pogba as well. No question he has talent, the issue is application but even on his best day isnt as good as them players. No surprise United best performance in recent weeks he was suspended Fabinho? You're joking right De Bruyne is the best player in the PL imo but I don't consider him a CM, same with David Silva. I can't think of a single dedicated CM better than Pogba tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: Fabinho? You're joking right De Bruyne is the best player in the PL imo but I don't consider him a CM, same with David Silva. I can't think of a single dedicated CM better than Pogba tbh. Fabinho is a top class player, absolutely bossed United at Anfield and while he is fairly slow he dominates midfield. Silva and KDB play deeper for City so are centre midfielders for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: Fabinho is a top class player, absolutely bossed United at Anfield and while he is fairly slow he dominates midfield. Silva and KDB play deeper for City so are centre midfielders for me They're not central midfielders because their manager chooses to play them there in the same way Hazard is not a #9 because Sarri plays him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 On 22/04/2019 at 11:17, Dr_Pangloss said: De Gea ws pretty shocking yesterday, an 'elite' keeper ought to be saving their second and third goals. I do wonder about him, he has been a 'great' keeper for the past few years but every now and then top keepers turn the wrong sort of corner and never recover. He had an awful world cup, barely making a save, and has had a pretty poor season, shipping the sorts of goals you wouldn't expect him to. I wonder if he's on a permanent downward trajectory. Some of it may just be down to lack of confidence in the defence causing him to take up different positions than he normally would to try and compensate for their incompetence. De Gea has always been a pretty good shot stopper and like schmeichel he is good at just getting a leg,elbow,fingertip,arse etc to the ball to keep it out but in reality he probably only had to face 3 or 4 shots on target most weeks. Everton had 15 shots, 8 on target, barcelona 13/6 , even West ham managed 18 shots, 4 on target. I know it can work both ways but look at the state of our keepers this year playing behind a woeful defence, sure Nyland in particular didn't help himself by throwing a few in but i think with our current defence you would maybe see a far more confident side of him, Hell even Jed Steer looks ok for the most part at the moment and at any point over the past 6 years ago since he joined us i doubt anyone would have cared if we had given him away free to a random league 2 club as that looked about his level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Actually on Pogba...Roy Keane made the social media point. He did actually say after the World cup final Pogba could post whatever dance he wanted on Instagram as he'd won the World cup, it's when things go badly on the pitch the very exaggarated run up to take a penalty or social media handshakes with Lingard don't look the best advised. Pogba is talented but he needs teams built around him. I thought he played well in World cup but he of course had Kante and also Blaise Matudi covering huge ground around him. That Juve midfield of Pirlo-Vidal-Pogba was slightly different but a total joy to watch for two years. If he dosen't then too many games bypass him even in seasons like this when his stats on paper look pretty good. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I have barely been in a fight my whole life but I am sure if I had to share a dressing room with a dancing Jesse Lingard I would end up putting his face through a window. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted April 24, 2019 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2019 Ole Gunnar Sherwood. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 David Silva just pissed on Pogba this game, shambles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 and long may this continue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 What is that? 6 losses out of 8? OGS Masterclass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 They need to get rid of De Gea, he's shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2019 To be fair they weren't bad tonight. I mean they were still a shadow of the old United. But they weren't bad. If De Gea hadn't had a lobotomy they could easily have got something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted April 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2019 De Gea is playing for a move to Madrid I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: To be fair they weren't bad tonight. I mean they were still a shadow of the old United. But they weren't bad. If De Gea hadn't had a lobotomy they could easily have got something. They were very negative, and city look like they can break through a brick wall. A massive gap in quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: They need to get rid of De Gea, he's shocking. Said in other thread. You can only play with shit long enough before effects you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Zatman said: Said in other thread. You can only play with shit long enough before effects you I think he's finished as an 'elite' keeper, will never be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted April 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2019 I think De Gea can regain his form and become one of the best again, but he won’t do so at Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I think he's finished as an 'elite' keeper, will never be the same. I am in 2 minds as he has had good games in recent years compared to Courtois and Lloris who have lost it completely but De Gea has been poor in recent times. Stories are Juventus wants him and behind that defence his confidence could improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 42 minutes ago, S-Platt said: De Gea is playing for a move to Madrid I think. He isn't impressing anyone with performances like this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 spot on by Keane for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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