villa89 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 So who would you rather we play up front? Weimann, Agbonlahor and Holt?? The strikers who have got 7 league goals between them. Having never seen an Aston Villa training session I have to assume that, bad and all as those 3 strikers are, they must be better than Helenius given that he can't even manage to come off the bench for a few substitute appearances. If he was good enough he'd be in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Was he injured after he came on and scored in the cup? Or just not picked? Not picked, was on the bench for every game after the Sheffield United game until the Newcastle game and didn't off the bench in any of them. He got injured and has only recently come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 So who would you rather we play up front? Weimann, Agbonlahor and Holt?? The strikers who have got 7 league goals between them. Having never seen an Aston Villa training session I have to assume that, bad and all as those 3 strikers are, they must be better than Helenius given that he can't even manage to come off the bench for a few substitute appearances. If he was good enough he'd be in the team. When you look at some of the players this manager has thought are good enough for the team, I wouldn't be using his judgement as a basis in this regard personally. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomaspg Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Really dont understand why he hasnt been given a go, he seende alright the few times he was on the pitch. A mystery this is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Certainly is all a bit weird, we know lambert likes the targetman but that just raises the question why buy him in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avflife Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Jordan Bowery was ahead of him in the pecking order this season, a league two striker who has a conversion rate of 1 in 9 in the lowest English league. Lambert doesn't have any man-management skills, just look at the way CNZ has been treated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshVilla Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 As always with twitter and newspaper speculation, I'm going to take it with a huge truck load of salt, but if the rumours of him being sold on are true then that's hugely disappointing. He's never come on in his (albeit very few) sub appearances and looked rubbish. If you ask me, I've thought he's looked as though he has something about him; there's some definite skill there and he obviously knows where the net is. It baffles me that he put in a good performance in the cup, scored, but was never given a chance after that. Kozak should hopefully be fit for the start of next season, so I assume that he'll be our starting striker. I think that having Helenius as a backup big target man up front would be fine. I'd much rather keep him and not have to spend money on another striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I'm really amazed by some comments and even Lambert thinking ! Many games we look like we're not scoring , Why just we don't try ?! we're playing players who are doing rubbish job as Weimann and Holt while not trying the likes of Helenius and Tonev ! Last year Lambert used to take risks on putting players .. This year he isn't trying to gamble because of his own success last season ! He's playing with the shadow of last season ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Jordan Bowery was ahead of him in the pecking order this season, a league two striker who has a conversion rate of 1 in 9 in the lowest English league. Lambert doesn't have any man-management skills, just look at the way CNZ has been treated. Lambert is a total knobjockey for snapping CNZ's achilles! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 What a completely pointless signing this has turned out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSmith22 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I wouldn't write it off as pointless just yet. I truly believe the talent is there for him. I think what's been holding him back is adapting to the phsyical nature of the prem. However, I think it would be tragic not to let him get some chances in these last few games. As close as we are to the bottom I think Norwich, Sunderland, and Cardiff would have to pull off miracles for us to be legitimately in that relegation picture. So there really is no reason not to let Nicklas and Callum have a go and see what they've really got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Mads Bach Lund @MadsBachLundSEG 3h @NicklasHelenius is fully fit and ready to play if the team needs him. He has Worked hard, gained some pounds and is 100% focused #beast #9 Wonder if he get some time this weekend? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 @NicklasHelenius ...He has Worked hard, gained some pounds Has he been training with Holt? Good to see the senior pro's influence on a younger player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 cruel, but funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Isn't he supposed to be going to Real Madrid according to rumours on t'internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Chuck him in there. I look forward to seeing him get a shot. Cannot be any worse than Gabby, Fatty and Mouthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Suppose were safe with a few games to go as unlikely as it looks i'd love to see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Is it really correct that he hasn't played a single minute for us since actually scoring for us v Sheffield United? If true, truly baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Is it really correct that he hasn't played a single minute for us since actually scoring for us v Sheffield United? If true, truly baffling. I think he's injury flew under the radar a little, he was out for a while. I don't really see what's baffling about it when he was never signed to come in and play straight away. He has said it himself, the manager said it when he signed, what more can you say? He needed to get physically ready, I mean he looked about 4 stone soaking wet. Recent pictures I've seen he is looking a lot more of a presence, been on the weights. His agent also mentioned he's put on some needed weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Yes I know but he was at least making some sub appearences first half of the season. I just find it baffling that Gabby and Weimann get start after start after start yet Helenius actually scored a goal and hasn't played since. I know he picked up an injury but the Sheffield game was four months ago so he hasn't been out that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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