suttonpaul Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 So you saw him play one game and you want to write him off already? Haven't we been over this 100 times?When at vp I often watch just one player when they are new to get a feel for what they are all about. I saw a player poor in the air, not much better on the ground, slow and lacked movement. Doesn't sound like a good striker does it? You've just described the other striker we signed in the summer. Nah kozak has good movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 talk on twitter is that he and Johnson are in the squad. Anyone heard anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pembers Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 He probably has zero match sharpness as he's barely played all season, suddenly throwing him in for a start now would probably be no good as I guess he doesn't have a feel for the pace of the Premier League yet as he hasn't played in months. Lambert not giving him sub appearances time and building up his gametime is a stupid move in my opinion. Lambert said he's a player for next season and I hope he did mean that and isn't going to get rid of him without giving him a shot. He's probably the player I was most excited about seeing play this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 He probably has zero match sharpness as he's barely played all season, suddenly throwing him in for a start now would probably be no good as I guess he doesn't have a feel for the pace of the Premier League yet as he hasn't played in months. Lambert not giving him sub appearances time and building up his gametime is a stupid move in my opinion. Lambert said he's a player for next season and I hope he did mean that and isn't going to get rid of him without giving him a shot. He's probably the player I was most excited about seeing play this season. Tonev sounded the most exciting prospect for me - as he had been recommended by Stan and could have been a AM or even left sided winger we had craved for so long. I still hope he can be. I think it would give the fans a huge boost if Tonev, Helenius or Johnson featured in the run in. I don't expect them to have a huge impact. But having that faint hope they could is sometimes enough. Whereas you know what you will get from Holt, Bowery and Sylla and its nothing that is likely to win a match. He probably has zero match sharpness as he's barely played all season, suddenly throwing him in for a start now would probably be no good as I guess he doesn't have a feel for the pace of the Premier League yet as he hasn't played in months. Lambert not giving him sub appearances time and building up his gametime is a stupid move in my opinion. Lambert said he's a player for next season and I hope he did mean that and isn't going to get rid of him without giving him a shot. He's probably the player I was most excited about seeing play this season. Tonev sounded the most exciting prospect for me - as he had been recommended by Stan and could have been a AM or even left sided winger we had craved for so long. I still hope he can be. I think it would give the fans a huge boost if Tonev, Helenius or Johnson featured in the run in. I don't expect them to have a huge impact. But having that faint hope they could is sometimes enough. Whereas you know what you will get from Holt, Bowery and Sylla and its nothing that is likely to win a match. oh and more of Robinson of course. None of the listed above can be any worse than Weimann or Gabby has been most of this season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 talk on twitter is that he and Johnson are in the squad. Anyone heard anything? Wouldnt surprise me with cowans influence, some of the u21s ive not seen in senior training seems to be involved recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooligan Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The mention of lack of match sharpness is another thing i think our manager falls down on.None of the players on the fringe of the first team ever play in the reserves,.The likes of Helenius,Bowery,Luna,Tonev,Sylla,Steer,Bennett go weeks without actually playing .How can these players be match fit if they never actually play ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 How much did we pay for him? Take your pick: Soccerbase says £1.2m Transfer League says £2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The mention of lack of match sharpness is another thing i think our manager falls down on.None of the players on the fringe of the first team ever play in the reserves,.The likes of Helenius,Bowery,Luna,Tonev,Sylla,Steer,Bennett go weeks without actually playing .How can these players be match fit if they never actually play ? There is no reserve league anymore, I don't think that can be blamed on Lambert. No doubt those players have suffered from not having one, but certainly no fault of Lamberts. (there is the elite development league, or whatever it's called, but you are limited to the number of over age players you can play.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 So you saw him play one game and you want to write him off already? Haven't we been over this 100 times?When at vp I often watch just one player when they are new to get a feel for what they are all about. I saw a player poor in the air, not much better on the ground, slow and lacked movement. Doesn't sound like a good striker does it? You've just described the other striker we signed in the summer. Nah kozak has good movement So you have come to a conclusive judgement on Helenius' movement based on a sub appearence against Rotherham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 So you saw him play one game and you want to write him off already? Haven't we been over this 100 times?When at vp I often watch just one player when they are new to get a feel for what they are all about. I saw a player poor in the air, not much better on the ground, slow and lacked movement. Doesn't sound like a good striker does it?You've just described the other striker we signed in the summer. Nah kozak has good movement So you have come to a conclusive judgement on Helenius' movement based on a sub appearence against Rotherham? I've seen him every minute he has been on the pitch. I mentioned that game as I watched him only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I think it is ridiculous that there is no reserve league, what a **** up by the FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The mention of lack of match sharpness is another thing i think our manager falls down on.None of the players on the fringe of the first team ever play in the reserves,.The likes of Helenius,Bowery,Luna,Tonev,Sylla,Steer,Bennett go weeks without actually playing .How can these players be match fit if they never actually play ? There is no reserve league anymore, I don't think that can be blamed on Lambert. No doubt those players have suffered from not having one, but certainly no fault of Lamberts. (there is the elite development league, or whatever it's called, but you are limited to the number of over age players you can play.) What? Since this season? That's ducking mad! Who's daft idea was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Its u21's now with a limit of a few older players i think it 2 or 3, ridiculous really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 talk on twitter is that he and Johnson are in the squad. Anyone heard anything? I hope this isn't another "leak". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 talk on twitter is that he and Johnson are in the squad. Anyone heard anything?I hope this isn't another "leak". It was Sid all along 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I hope Helenius starts as he can't be any worse than the current strikers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 According to the Guardian he is doubtful to be fit (thigh injury). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Is a strange 1 for me, seen him bit during pre season and look to have good feet and the vision to pick a pass out aswel, maybe he just hasn't settled right but would love to see him get his chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 He's a bit like a fish out of water just yet. He did look a possible player though when we signed him, so he deserves persevering with. I'd definitely like to see him given some bench time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 26, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2014 Not in the squad. In a strange way you have to kind of hope it is a little niggle that has him not being picked, although obviously we don't want him injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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