Follyfoot Posted February 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: Yeah me too. My comment was just a laugh at Brucey’s famous quote. What a sausage he was, by the way. As was mine Edited February 7, 2023 by Follyfoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Current events might put a bit of a spanner in their immediate plans I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Precision Posted February 7, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Current events might put a bit of a spanner in their immediate plans I feel. I doubt it, they won’t fall foul of financial regs like City, our major sponsorship deals are yet to come and those deals will have been approved by the PL FMV body they’ve set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: As was mine Too subtle for me. I need to pull wor socks and sleeves up! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted February 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Current events might put a bit of a spanner in their immediate plans I feel. shame that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted February 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2023 43 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: Too subtle for me. I need to pull wor socks and sleeves up! and put your boots on and give it a right good go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Random Precision said: I doubt it, they won’t fall foul of financial regs like City, our major sponsorship deals are yet to come and those deals will have been approved by the PL FMV body they’ve set up. Sadly, you're right. The league shot themselves in the foot by signing off on Newcastle's deals as they go along. How on earth they thought the new sleeve sponsorship deal represented fair market value is beyond me, not to mention the fact that it is half funded by an associated party. No sane, legitimate, independent business is paying 7m to be on a clubs sleeve that isn't in the champions league. These deals (and whatever deals were made to allow Saudi Arabia to own Newcastle) are what will eventually be scrutinised if an independent regulator comes in. Chances are, that independent regulator will be corrupt anyway. Edited February 7, 2023 by MrBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Precision Posted February 7, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Sadly, you're right. The league shot themselves in the foot by signing off on Newcastle's deals as they go along. How on earth they thought the new sleeve sponsorship deal represented fair market value is beyond me, not to mention the fact that it is half funded by an associated party. No sane, legitimate, independent business is paying 7m to be on a clubs sleeve that isn't in the champions league. These deals (and whatever deals were made to allow Saudi Arabia to own Newcastle) are what will eventually be scrutinised if an independent regulator comes in. Chances are, that independent regulator will be corrupt anyway. Any independent regulator will be government appointed, therefore not really independent. Re sponsorship, I understand that £10 million a season is standard for sleeve sponsorship of CL teams so £7.5 million a year isn’t too shabby for Newcastle. Everything is up for sponsorship at Newcastle, Shirt, Ground, training ground, training kit etc etc so the potential is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Wainy316 said: Current events might put a bit of a spanner in their immediate plans I feel. If anything it might make it easier for them, one fewer team to leapfrog perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Random Precision said: Any independent regulator will be government appointed, therefore not really independent. Re sponsorship, I understand that £10 million a season is standard for sleeve sponsorship of CL teams so £7.5 million a year isn’t too shabby for Newcastle. Everything is up for sponsorship at Newcastle, Shirt, Ground, training ground, training kit etc etc so the potential is huge. I'm not saying it's isn't a shabby rate. It's exceptional, in both senses of the word. Do you not see that 7.5m is falsely inflated? And only paid because the company that is paying it effectively owns Newcastle? What on earth have Newcastle achieved to warrant having the 7th highest sleeve sponsorship deal in the league and more than 5m more than anyone outside the sky 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I'm not saying it's isn't a shabby rate. It's exceptional, in both senses of the word. Do you not see that 7.5m is falsely inflated? And only paid because the company that is paying it effectively owns Newcastle? What on earth have Newcastle achieved to warrant having the 7th highest sleeve sponsorship deal in the league and more than 5m more than anyone outside the sky 6? It’s the same rubbish Man City are up to. We all know it. Nothing changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Precision Posted February 7, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, LondonLax said: It’s the same rubbish Man City are up to. We all know it. Nothing changes. Difference being ours is all approved by the PL FMV panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: If anything it might make it easier for them, one fewer team to leapfrog perhaps. And a case study of things not to do. Or a case study on the potential cost of cheating versus it's benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Precision Posted February 7, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I'm not saying it's isn't a shabby rate. It's exceptional, in both senses of the word. Do you not see that 7.5m is falsely inflated? And only paid because the company that is paying it effectively owns Newcastle? What on earth have Newcastle achieved to warrant having the 7th highest sleeve sponsorship deal in the league and more than 5m more than anyone outside the sky 6? I guess it’s what someone is willing to pay and related party sponsorship is allowed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, Chindie said: And a case study of things not to do. Or a case study on the potential cost of cheating versus it's benefits. A case study in the importance of rock solid IT security and strong encryption when sending emails about doing crimes and breaking rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just draw a line under this and let's get on with it guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 5 hours ago, lapal_fan said: Just draw a line under this and let's get on with it guys. Why so passive? You want City let off with their misgivings also. I assumed you were joking, but you seem serious? I admire the ability to forgive but in these instances I can't see past them making the game an unfair unsporting contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 7, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Random Precision said: I guess it’s what someone is willing to pay and related party sponsorship is allowed. Well, yes, but for example, Etihad were willing to pay £8m a season to sponsor Man City's shirts, and they did - but Man City's owners also chipped in with £57m a season to make things a bit more fun for them - there's a difference between what the market will support, even for related parties, and sneaking a bundle of money through a third party, that's an altogether murkier thing. I'm hoping you'll at least find ways to do this that I can't figure out, never mind the regulator, Abu Dhabi seemed to simply not give a s**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Random Precision said: I guess it’s what someone is willing to pay and related party sponsorship is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 newcastle owners watching the Mancheatster City events unfolding: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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