The_Steve Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: Their biggest problem is that they needed to fill their DoF role before anything else, and they haven't. Howe is, I'm pretty sure, the only footballing person employed in the hierarchy currently. (I believe similar to when we went down.) They have no sense of direction and what kind of plan & club they will become. If they do get relegated, what is their plan going to be? Buy the best Championship players like we did our first year? We have seen first-hand what happens if that doesn't work immediately. Do they go the young player route? Again, still waiting on getting a DoF is hurting them more than losing matches imo Yep - that’s the major elephant in the room - expect a quiet Jan if they don’t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Howe was never gonna keep them up, but I guess they couldn't get anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I still can’t get excited about them dropping until they’re in total dire straits. They’re still only 3 points from safety. When you look at the table, we’ve lost more games than them. Be interesting to see if they can get anything at all out of their next 2/3 games? January is crucial for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted December 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: They should just bite the bullet and hire Big Sam. If it doesn't work it doesn't work but under Howe they are already down. ah the 'big sam will save them from relegation' myth again west brom were closer to survival than newcastle currently are when he took them over and subsequently took them down besisdes, he's already been sacked by newcastle once, he aint going back they're going to need to spring a few shocks in december. howe did pretty well vs the big teams at bournemouth so who knows, they might do Edited December 12, 2021 by tomav84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villalad21 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, tomav84 said: ah the 'big sam will save them from relegation' myth again west brom were closer to survival than newcastle currently are when he took them over and subsequently took them down besisdes, he's already been sacked by newcastle once, he aint going back they're going to need to spring a few shocks in december. howe did pretty well vs the big teams at bournemouth so who knows, they might do Doesn't necessarily have to be big Sam but they need a pragmatic manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Newcastle are three points from safety, when Allardyce took over West Brom they were two points from safety. Not saying Newcastle should appoint Allardyce, but West Brom were in a far worse position this time last season than Newcastle are now, as they had a much weaker squad with less funds to strengthen in January, and whilst they were closer to survivial than Newcastle by one point that was kind of negated by the fact that that Burnley had two games in hand. Not sure who Newcastle should have appointed, but with their squad would have been better off with someone who has a more pragmatic approach than Howe, basically someone who's better but not too much of a departure from Bruce. Can't remember if he was available at the time but Nuno might have made more sense, as he's got that pragmatic side to him, but is not a complete 'dinosaur' when it comes to tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 We're conceding goals for fun and can't pass the ball and can't win a game. Let's hire a guy who concedes goals for fun and practices playing out from the back to a stubborn degree no matter what. It's genius stuff. They won't stay up. I don't think they will even bounce back first hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 They may have money but they may be worse club owners than Ashley. Amanda has no idea how to run a football club. Every decision they have made up until now has been a poor one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: We're conceding goals for fun and can't pass the ball and can't win a game. Let's hire a guy who concedes goals for fun and practices playing out from the back to a stubborn degree no matter what. It's genius stuff. They won't stay up. I don't think they will even bounce back first hit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Trippier could be the first in apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 One win and they’re only in the relegation zone on goals difference. They aren’t as dead and buried as people seem to want them to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Next 4 games they have Liverpool, City, utd, everton Watford have Burnley, Palace, Wolves, West ham If they're above Watford by the time they play each other in January then Watford deserve to go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59657255 Not dodgy at all Quote Newcastle will be allowed Saudi Arabian sponsorship deals, Premier League decides Newcastle United will be allowed sponsorship deals with Saudi Arabian companies as long as the Premier League considers them "fair market value". On Tuesday Premier League shareholders removed the temporary block put on the club since its controversial takeover. Clubs have been uneasy over the takeover, which prompted Premier League chairman Gary Hoffman to decide to step down at the end of January 2022. The Premier League board will decide what is "fair market value". There was a concern Newcastle could sign deals with companies closely aligned to the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund that provided much of the finance for the takeover, and which would be used to inflate their spending capacity under Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jono62 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59657255 Not dodgy at all What do the Football League think about it, more importantly? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 17:29, The_Steve said: Yep - that’s the major elephant in the room - expect a quiet Jan if they don’t They've signed Liverpool's haven't they as of the coming summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) If they could get battered 6 or 7 at Liverpool tonight then we are all happy. A red card & players throwing their shirts at Howe & some Newcastle players fighting each other would be great as well. Edited December 16, 2021 by Amsterdam_Neil_D 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: If they could get battered 6 or 7 at Liverpool tonight then we are all happy. A red card & players throwing their shirts at Howe & some Newcastle players fighting each other would be great as well. Red cards wont mean anything, they dont have much quality as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: If they could get battered 6 or 7 at Liverpool tonight then we are all happy. A red card & players throwing their shirts at Howe & some Newcastle players fighting each other would be great as well. But I don’t want Liverpool winning the title either. A draw will do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Zatman said: Red cards wont mean anything, It will to me as I will wet myself laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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