AVFCforever1991 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 If he stays 1 more season, scores 20+ goals. Has a great WC, then he can pretty much go to any team he likes.. His game is far from complete, still got a lot to learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Or (from his point of view) he could stay at Villa for 1 more year, put off the £2m a year payrise getting a horrible injury and miss the chance to 1) financially set himself up for life and 2) play in the BIG time. Villa might also get relegated next year which isn't great on the CV. If I was him, sorry to say it, but I'd leave if a CL team wanted me (and was paying CL wages). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shillzz Posted May 24, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) I'm actually happy to see him go now, provided that we get a good price for him. I'm not at all convinced he'll do as well next year and, as long as the funds are re-invested, then I think our team could benefit overall from his departure. We have £30m worth of talent upfront in the form of Benteke, that's atleast comparable to the cost of the rest of the first 11 put together. We are woefully lacking quality elsewhere in the team, and I think we'd be a far more balanced team if we were to re-invest the proceeds from Benteke into a £10m Centre half, £10m Centre mid and £10m replacement upfront. I'm aware things are far from being that simple, but it atleast demonstrates my point. Selling Benteke could help us address these areas, provided that the money is re-invested wisely, which I'm quietly confident of with Lambert in charge. Edited May 24, 2013 by Shillzz 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Hmm, midtable possibly fighting relegation side again or Champions League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 If we get a big fee and reinvest then sadly let him go, hes obviously a bit of a mercenary and let him go and see that the grass isnt always greener. You wont be first on the teamsheet, you will be dropped if you have a few off gaes and you will not start every game like you have here. Get someone who wants to be here which lambert has shown he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 24, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 24, 2013 Can't we just compromise and sell him but loan him back for a season to help develop his game? If we were to do this, how would you feel about it? Would you rather we just sold and moved on, or would you be happy to loan him back for a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 24, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 24, 2013 Can't we just compromise and sell him but loan him back for a season to help develop his game? If we were to do this, how would you feel about it? Would you rather we just sold and moved on, or would you be happy to loan him back for a season? Interesting option. I doubt we'd keep him for more than a season anyway, so wouldn't bother me that much from that perspective. I guess it comes down to his performance. If we did that and he was as good next season as he has been this season, you'd think we'd probably have gotten more for him if we'd kept him. But if he had an average season next year, that value might come down, in which case we've cashed in. Hard to say. If it's that or sell him outright then I'd probably go for it, given the choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Can't we just compromise and sell him but loan him back for a season to help develop his game? If we were to do this, how would you feel about it? Would you rather we just sold and moved on, or would you be happy to loan him back for a season? This would feel like a kick in the teeth. Benteke saying he's only willing to play for us temporarily but not stay with us properly. I'd rather we did what 'Shilzz' said above, get the money in if he's not happy at AVFC and give Lambert a war chest to get us back in the top half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 the glaringly obvious thing for me is this. we need a 20m spend on our defence/midfield this summer just to try and get into the top half next season. and if we sell our main man, goalscorer and the player the whole team system is built around and we'll be even further in the shit. it's all very well getting 25-30m but Lerner wont spend that on a replacement striker will he ?, of course not. Lambert would be lucky to get 20m of that to buy ALL the players we need nevermind a replacement for Benteke, it'll be yet another season of struggle, followed by another summer of selling off any half decent players ,,, this is what happens when you are seen as nothing more than selling club that rolls over and lets anyone leave the only sensible thing Villa can do this summer is say NO. sorry Christian but you're not going anywhere, you've got a World Cup to get ready for next summer, get out there and do your job and we'll see where things stand after that that said. i fully expect us to sell him, for less than we'd all want and for Lerner to think a 15m style total transfer fund to sort out a team of strugglers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Can't we just compromise and sell him but loan him back for a season to help develop his game? If we were to do this, how would you feel about it? Would you rather we just sold and moved on, or would you be happy to loan him back for a season? This would feel like a kick in the teeth. Benteke saying he's only willing to play for us temporarily but not stay with us properly. I'd rather we did what 'Shilzz' said above, get the money in if he's not happy at AVFC and give Lambert a war chest to get us back in the top half. Lambert would still get a warchest if we sold him and loaned him back for a season. It would just mean that we have 1 better player in our team. Which would surely push us higher up the table and then make us a better prospect for new signings next summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Sell and loan back ?. NO WAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Ahhhh **** him! End the contact talks and sell him ASAP. He doesn't want to be here and didn't really want to be from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 the glaringly obvious thing for me is this. we need a 20m spend on our defence/midfield this summer just to try and get into the top half next season. and if we sell our main man, goalscorer and the player the whole team system is built around and we'll be even further in the shit. it's all very well getting 25-30m but Lerner wont spend that on a replacement striker will he ?, of course not. Lambert would be lucky to get 20m of that to buy ALL the players we need nevermind a replacement for Benteke, it'll be yet another season of struggle, followed by another summer of selling off any half decent players ,,, this is what happens when you are seen as nothing more than selling club that rolls over and lets anyone leave the only sensible thing Villa can do this summer is say NO. sorry Christian but you're not going anywhere, you've got a World Cup to get ready for next summer, get out there and do your job and we'll see where things stand after that that said. i fully expect us to sell him, for less than we'd all want and for Lerner to think a 15m style total transfer fund to sort out a team of strugglers This whole post is on the assumption that Lerner wont give Lambert the money from the Benteke sale. My opinion is that Lambert will get most of the money that he generates from player sales. With the method of buying young players and developing them to keep OR sell, if you don't give money to Lambert to re-invest it, then you're just treading water. It makes sense that this new vision is to either build a promising team, or to generate funds to continue to build a promising team. It will result in higher league finishes, which generates more money anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giro Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Disappointing, but meh it's been coming since day one really hasn't it. Thought he would stay at least one more season at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Ahhhh **** him! End the contact talks and sell him ASAP. He doesn't want to be here and didn't really want to be from day one. I've read some silly things on this website before and this one is right up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I think a lot of people posting in this thread have read the newspaper stories and not the proper interview. He's really not said anything about wanting to leave at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted May 24, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2013 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Ahhhh **** him! End the contact talks and sell him ASAP. He doesn't want to be here and didn't really want to be from day one. I've Written some silly things on this website before and this one is right up there. Edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I think a lot of people posting in this thread have read the newspaper stories and not the proper interview. He's really not said anything about wanting to leave at all. Yep - Please read before slagging him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 He says I am happy to stay at villa for another season and he is happy here. Of course what would some of you do without something to shit your pants over. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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