MikeMcKenna Posted November 16, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2012 Whatever the truth is, personally I am just going to enjoy the time he is here and hope he helps to get us moving upwards again. I am long past hero worshipping players, who are at the end of the day, mercenaries who sell the skills to the highest bidder. After his performance against Man U when he destroyed Smalling, my immediate thoughts were that we will do very well to keep him for more than a year or two. Enjoy while it lasts folks, oh and STOP reading the toilet paper known as the sun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Did we sign him on a 4 yr deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Hopefully if he keeps this up we move smart at the end of the season and slam a new good lengthy contract down for him with a fat release clause in it to stop any bastard trying to turn his head and poach him on the cheap. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Whatever the truth is, personally I am just going to enjoy the time he is here and hope he helps to get us moving upwards again. I am long past hero worshipping players, who are at the end of the day, mercenaries who sell the skills to the highest bidder. After his performance against Man U when he destroyed Smalling, my immediate thoughts were that we will do very well to keep him for more than a year or two. Enjoy while it lasts folks, oh and STOP reading the toilet paper known as the sun! I'm with Mike on this. My hero worshipping days are long gone and I now see players for what they are. In all fairness you can have no argument if a players ambition is to play for the biggest clubs.To do that though they are going to have to perform well for us and that can only benefit us whilst they are here. It will be a long road for us to again be seen as one of the top sides in this country but this club is certainly capable of getting there but it will mean along the way losing the odd exceptional player and having to build again. Unlike in the recent past it will also mean reinvesting what money we do bring in and trying to sign players of equal quality to those leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I kind of agree with you here in the terms of making profit out of a player Rev but if it meant dismantling the team and starting over again from scratch then it sort of defeats the object. I've chopped the quote down for the sake of space, but this is all about the philosophy of how you look at football these days. I'd like to think all clubs are equal and question why a player would want to leave Aston Villa for Arsenal if Aston Villa are doing well, but the reality is all clubs are stepping stones to somewhere bigger these days. There is a reason why mid table Premier League sides can take the best players from the best teams in countries like Belgium, France and Holland, but that same reason is why clubs who regularly qualify for the Champions League can take players away from clubs who dont. Everybody wants to play in the Champions League and if we cant offer it within a year or two then a player who might have ten seasons of top level first team football in him is going to want to go to some club who can. It's the grim reality of the game these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I'd prefer it if people stopped using quotes for Morpheus. It bypassess the filter if you do that. Its going to take a shit load more than that to get rid of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I've chopped the quote down for the sake of space, but this is all about the philosophy of how you look at football these days. I'd like to think all clubs are equal and question why a player would want to leave Aston Villa for Arsenal if Aston Villa are doing well, but the reality is all clubs are stepping stones to somewhere bigger these days. There is a reason why mid table Premier League sides can take the best players from the best teams in countries like Belgium, France and Holland, but that same reason is why clubs who regularly qualify for the Champions League can take players away from clubs who dont. Everybody wants to play in the Champions League and if we cant offer it within a year or two then a player who might have ten seasons of top level first team football in him is going to want to go to some club who can. It's the grim reality of the game these days. Too true. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereford-Villan Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 He's never going to end up at arsenal anyway. When have they ever paid top whack for which we would expect for anyone? They are the club that usually picks up cheap payers and sells then for a profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 He's never going to end up at arsenal anyway. When have they ever paid top whack for which we would expect for anyone? They are the club that usually picks up cheap payers and sells then for a profit. Jose antonio reyes, Santi Cazorla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I've chopped the quote down for the sake of space, but this is all about the philosophy of how you look at football these days. I'd like to think all clubs are equal and question why a player would want to leave Aston Villa for Arsenal if Aston Villa are doing well, but the reality is all clubs are stepping stones to somewhere bigger these days. There is a reason why mid table Premier League sides can take the best players from the best teams in countries like Belgium, France and Holland, but that same reason is why clubs who regularly qualify for the Champions League can take players away from clubs who dont. Everybody wants to play in the Champions League and if we cant offer it within a year or two then a player who might have ten seasons of top level first team football in him is going to want to go to some club who can. It's the grim reality of the game these days. Agree with what you say here. But there's no need to say those things to the press (if he did) Especially after only being here a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I feel this whole little situation that has risen is being taken with a gallon of salt and being blown way out of proportion by some. But may I ask anyone that may be able to enlighten me here as I feel I have missed something.. Where did the Sun get these "quotes" from? I would like to see the whole interview from this related comment from Benteke as I have browsed the net and cannot find an interview with Benteke that contains those comments the Sun published anywhere. Any help on this would be appreciated. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I dont see why he felt the need to give the quotes but its doesnt bother me. Bent left sunderland for us when we were below them in the league, recently Lambert left Norwich for us when we had finished below them also. Why? Money. If Benteke performs well for us, he'll get a move to another club. As long as he earns it, he'll go with my blessing as Young and Barry did, If not ill reserve the right to boo him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 How many people have really slagged him off since he joined us? Enough for me to have felt the need, repeatedly to defend him. After spurs people were calling him all sorts of things. Apparently some so called fans were even laughing at him in open training. read back through the thread, illuminating stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Islingtonclaret: I'd prefer it if people stopped using quotes for Morpheus. It bypassess the filter if you do that. Its going to take a shit load more than that to get rid of me. Every little helps. (sorry islingtonclaret, one last quote before I click the block button) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepDish Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Enough for me to have felt the need, repeatedly to defend him. After spurs people were calling him all sorts of things. Apparently some so called fans were even laughing at him in open training. read back through the thread, illuminating stuff Me too. When I suggested that he will be off to better clubs than our in two years I was ridiculed more than I have ever been here before (and I have said some stupid stuff...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thevillanofoz Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 hmm I take it back have just listened to the video with the question: Q: If in June, it's december now, in june Arsenal, Chelsea and the two manchesters arrive, where would you go? A: Arsenal, no question....blah, blah, blah Doh! http://www.rtbf.be/sport/football/diablesrouges/detail_benteke-je-suis-plus-mechant-dans-mon-jeu?id=7873987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Just read the whole interview translated in english and just as I thought not one bit of it matches the bollocks the sun published in there dickhead attempt to stir something up!! Pack of stupid moronic bastards that they are! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 From that article, I guess his nickname in Belgium is the Red Devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 From that article, I guess his nickname in Belgium is the Red Devil Belgium are the Red Devils I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted November 19, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted November 19, 2012 i said somethign similar in the westwood thread when someone suggested he might be off to united in a few years but it's true for any player i spose. for him to get poached by a champs league club in the premier league he's going to have to play for a coupel of seasons at a very very good level for us first. at which point he'll cost a fortune and will have helped us move on as a club. if he goes at that point we'll make a load of money, which even if only 80% goes back into the squad and we get a couple of younger replacements with the same potential and only 1 works out as good, then we're still moving forward as a club. we have to accept that until we are challenging for the the CL we cannot expect to keep players who want to and more importantly have the talent to play at that level. i mean, you don't see many players refusing moves to the premier league from the championship do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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