VillaChris Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 His spring and positioning for high crosses/punts is fine, not everyone has to be 6ft + to win headers in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrim Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Himself and Baker had a few shakey moments today but overall were ok. For the first goal, Okore stepped up to play offside and Baker didn't so Borini got in. But it's hard to say who was at fault for that. Okore being the one marking the man probably shouldn't have stepped up until Baker did but baker should have been quicker to move out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) He could probably do with a rest. The defence looked dodgy again today but he was the least at fault as Baker really struggled at times. Can't blame the centre backs for either goal imo, Cleverley just let Henderson go free and he had way too much time to play in a quality cross. Delph takes all the blame for the second. Edited January 17, 2015 by Bunnski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2015 I don't like this thing of finding a player to blame for every goal, but I guess it's unavoidable since every goal conceded leads directly to a loss. Jores' best friend Clark is back for next game so we'll be fine at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 His spring and positioning for high crosses/punts is fine, not everyone has to be 6ft + to win headers in the air. Really, Personally I think the week in / week out is starting to catch up with Jores. Doesn't make him a bad player - but hes no world beater imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 His spring and positioning for high crosses/punts is fine, not everyone has to be 6ft + to win headers in the air. Really, Personally I think the week in / week out is starting to catch up with Jores. Doesn't make him a bad player - but hes no world beater imo He turned 22 in August, he has plenty of time to develop even further. Oh yeah, for what it is worth, he is over 6ft tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 23, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2015 He's got 5 or 6 years to get to the usual peak for a central defender. Thats a lot of games to improve and he is already very good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 23, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2015 His spring and positioning for high crosses/punts is fine, not everyone has to be 6ft + to win headers in the air. He is 6ft + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 He also has teenage mutant ninja turtle power which trumps being 6ft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Playing with Baker, a different partner, possibly effected him. He will be ok when he is reunited with Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Playing with Baker, a different partner, possibly effected him. He will be ok when he is reunited with Clark. I think it did as neither of them are really organisers of a back line, whereas Clark does organise the line of defence. On Sunday Clark should be bought back into the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I would give him a rest on Sunday, I think it would do him well. It would also be good for Baker to get another game after being out for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I would give him a rest on Sunday, I think it would do him well. It would also be good for Baker to get another game after being out for a long time. That would mean playing Clark and Baker that's a very bad idea!! Let Okore renew his partnership with Clark as they need to grow together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I would give him a rest on Sunday, I think it would do him well. It would also be good for Baker to get another game after being out for a long time. That would mean playing Clark and Baker that's a very bad idea!! Let Okore renew his partnership with Clark as they need to grow together. Why would it be a bad idea? They have been bad in the past as a partnership, but I would say that would have more to do witht he fact that they were both worse players individually. They both seem to have improved this season, and if we were to have injuries/suspensions I'd rather have Baker with an extra game under his belt. That, and I think Okore would benefit from a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Okore needs a beard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I would give him a rest on Sunday, I think it would do him well. It would also be good for Baker to get another game after being out for a long time. That would mean playing Clark and Baker that's a very bad idea!! Let Okore renew his partnership with Clark as they need to grow together. Why would it be a bad idea? They have been bad in the past as a partnership, but I would say that would have more to do witht he fact that they were both worse players individually. They both seem to have improved this season, and if we were to have injuries/suspensions I'd rather have Baker with an extra game under his belt. That, and I think Okore would benefit from a rest. Neither of them is a right sided CB both play better on the left. Baker needs an experienced head alongside him to help his game that's why when he played with Senderos he looked decent. He looked back to his old self against Liverpool at home yet was MOM in the away one! We need to start our best team and at the minute our 2 best CB are Okore and Clark. If Baker can get some composure in his game he has all the attributes to be a good CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I would give him a rest on Sunday, I think it would do him well. It would also be good for Baker to get another game after being out for a long time. That would mean playing Clark and Baker that's a very bad idea!! Let Okore renew his partnership with Clark as they need to grow together. Why would it be a bad idea? They have been bad in the past as a partnership, but I would say that would have more to do witht he fact that they were both worse players individually. They both seem to have improved this season, and if we were to have injuries/suspensions I'd rather have Baker with an extra game under his belt. That, and I think Okore would benefit from a rest. Neither of them is a right sided CB both play better on the left. Baker needs an experienced head alongside him to help his game that's why when he played with Senderos he looked decent. He looked back to his old self against Liverpool at home yet was MOM in the away one! We need to start our best team and at the minute our 2 best CB are Okore and Clark. If Baker can get some composure in his game he has all the attributes to be a good CB. It's OT for this thread, but that's very harsh on Baker IMO. Just back from a long injury lay-off, playing in a team with a new style of football, with a partner he'd never played with before on a match-day. I actually think Baker and Okore should be given one more game this weekend - as WooJung says, it can't hurt for them to get used to each other. Clark should be preferred again for league games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) I would give him a rest on Sunday, I think it would do him well. It would also be good for Baker to get another game after being out for a long time. That would mean playing Clark and Baker that's a very bad idea!! Let Okore renew his partnership with Clark as they need to grow together. Why would it be a bad idea? They have been bad in the past as a partnership, but I would say that would have more to do witht he fact that they were both worse players individually. They both seem to have improved this season, and if we were to have injuries/suspensions I'd rather have Baker with an extra game under his belt. That, and I think Okore would benefit from a rest. Neither of them is a right sided CB both play better on the left. Baker needs an experienced head alongside him to help his game that's why when he played with Senderos he looked decent. He looked back to his old self against Liverpool at home yet was MOM in the away one! We need to start our best team and at the minute our 2 best CB are Okore and Clark. If Baker can get some composure in his game he has all the attributes to be a good CB. Clark has already played on the right, and if anything it will be a good experience for him to play there again. Besides, lots of teams play with two right sided CBs (Wasn't it with Dunne and Collins that we had one of the best defenses in the league?). I think Clark can play the role of the experienced head. After all he's done that brilliantly with Okore. Edited January 24, 2015 by WooJung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Quite simply a rock. Keeps improving every match and still amazes me with his athleticism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) Absolutely sensational today I thought, though I wasn't entirely sure if he was to blame for the goal only that it came down his side. My eyes were averted for a split second. From what I did see though he was boss. Again. He's got serious potential. World class potential. Edited January 25, 2015 by dont_do_it_doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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