DCJonah Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Perhaps you could place some blame on him for Vardy getting the chance, but that was saved. The goal is 100% down to lescott atrocious attitude and complete lack of desire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Amazes me how many people don't realise you can't be offside from a goal kick or throw in. If fans don't know you can bet some professionals don't realise either and knowing our lot probably some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Think the whole unit stepped to the half way line as normal, because it was unusual the ball would get to him in the first place as someone would've gone for the header to clear it. I would call this a freak goal, because of the unfortunate series of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 16, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 16, 2016 18 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: Was that not more Bacuna's fault? I need to watch it again I think! Yes, you need to watch it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Just now, AVTuco said: Yes, you need to watch it again. I'll get right on that. I'll let you know when i'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmeedson Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Always looks overweight to me, gets done by the ball over the top to often , up against a foxes side today who looked tired and feeling their endeavours of the season. We need to win games now so need to be far more positive from defence and that means taking it to the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sexbelowsound Posted January 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, onmeedson said: Always looks overweight to me, gets done by the ball over the top to often , up against a foxes side today who looked tired and feeling their endeavours of the season. We need to win games now so need to be far more positive from defence and that means taking it to the opposition. Completely disagree with all of that. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Trivia knowledge. Why is it not possible to be offside from a goal kick and throw in? Because by definition, you can only be offside when the ball is last played by a teammate. But in these two instances the ball is not in play when it is touched by a teammate. When it leaves the foot at a goal kick it is not in play until it leaves the penalty area. So the ball came into play AFTER the touch by a teammate. So, a touch while the ball is not in play is not counted as a "last played." The last touch while the ball was in play, was not a teammate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Trivia knowledge. Why is it not possible to be offside from a goal kick and throw in? Because by definition, you can only be offside when the ball is last played by a teammate. But in these two instances the ball is not in play when it is touched by a teammate. When it leaves the foot at a goal kick it is not in play until it leaves the penalty area. So the ball came into play AFTER the touch by a teammate. So, a touch while the ball is not in play is not counted as a "last played." The last touch while the ball was in play, was not a teammate. That can't be correct because you can be offside in a free kick situation, even though the ball is technically out of play at that time. Also, didn't the no offside rule from a goal kick rule only come in to existence when they had the big shake up about ten years ago? When they introduced/refined interfering with play etc? Talking of which, you never hear of a free kick being "indirect" anymore, except when given in the box. I can't even find clarification on how that law works now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2016 11 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Talking of which, you never hear of a free kick being "indirect" anymore, except when given in the box. I can't even find clarification on how that law works now. Yes you do, although it's rare by it's nature because it's mostly given for obstruction or dangerous play. It's why you see players take those weird free kicks where they touch it to the side first. Because they can't just take shot as it's indirect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Yes you do, although it's rare by it's nature because it's mostly given for obstruction or dangerous play. It's why you see players take those weird free kicks where they touch it to the side first. Because they can't just take shot as it's indirect. So the rule hasn't changed, thanks for the info. I guess my main point (which I only half made) was that you never hear it mentioned by commentators anymore. Likely because they don't understand the rules themselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 21 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: That can't be correct because you can be offside in a free kick situation, even though the ball is technically out of play at that time. Also, didn't the no offside rule from a goal kick rule only come in to existence when they had the big shake up about ten years ago? When they introduced/refined interfering with play etc? Talking of which, you never hear of a free kick being "indirect" anymore, except when given in the box. I can't even find clarification on how that law works now. nope been the rule since the 80's at least. (that's when I started). on a direct free kick the ball is in play when it is touched.... Certain fouls are punished by IFK. Almost all of which are ones in which, by definition, there is not contact between the players. offside, obstruction, dangerous play, entering or leaving field without permission. but you are right, in the premier league anyway, they are rarely called. other than offside of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2016 22 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: So the rule hasn't changed, thanks for the info. I guess my main point (which I only half made) was that you never hear it mentioned by commentators anymore. Likely because they don't understand the rules themselves. I believe if the ref has his arm in the air while the free kick is being taken, it's indirect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Learning with Villa Talk. Lovely stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 This discussion has randomly had me thinking about Jonathan Pearce unable to comprehend goal-line technology during the world cup and highlight the fact it was a German system that was being used. It's the closest I've ever come to head-butting the tv screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Okore was excellent today. Best CB at the club by miles, and one of the very few players I wouldn't sell if we received a cash bid for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted January 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2016 He never saw vardy until it was too late to catch him , poor concentration just like Lescott, other than that he was good. Think he will be our best CD once he has more game time / experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2016 It was notable how much Sherwood rated Okore as well. I can't remember exactly what he said before the game, but it was clear he thought he was very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Needs to improve his positioning but decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Someone remind the dumbasses running the club he is going into the last year of his contract for **** sake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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