Rugeley Villa Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Sunderland have superb home support with the numbers they pull in and also away support for the distance they travel most games. They mostly sell out away games but majority of the time they only take the smaller allocation, but it's still great support for how shit they are and the miles they travel. We have a bigger fan base but for the last ten years or so they have easily beat our attendances for some strange reason. They just seem more loyal in the north east and are more fanatical about their football up there than fans from the Midlands. It's a completely different make up compared to the West Midlands area. Both deprived areas but they are two completely different regions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Sunderland have superb home support with the numbers they pull in and also away support for the distance they travel most games. They mostly sell out away games but majority of the time they only take the smaller allocation, but it's still great support for how shit they are and the miles they travel. We have a bigger fan base but for the last ten years or so they have easily beat our attendances for some strange reason. They just seem more loyal in the north east and are more fanatical about their football up there than fans from the Midlands. It's a completely different make up compared to the West Midlands area. Both deprived areas but they are two completely different regions. Geography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Geography. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: ??? Only football club within how many miles?. With us, you have multiple big clubs in a small area. That's why they keep attendances high. Same with Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Got ya. Yeah that is a good point, also other factors as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: ??? Within 50 miles of VP there are 15 clubs in the football league, four in the Premiership and four in the championship. Within 50 of the SOL there are 4 clubs, two in the premiership, one in the championship and one league 2. Always makes me laugh when they go on about what a big club they are because their attendance. Obviously has nothing to do with the lack of choice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Only football club within how many miles?. With us, you have multiple big clubs in a small area. That's why they keep attendances high. Same with Newcastle. Very true but what is the population of Sunderland, in any case aswell Newcastle is only 10 minutes away from the Metro, the population of those two combined must still be less than whole West Midlands area. Edit; Just checked and according to 2011 census (o.k wiki) Sunderland has population of 275, 300 so that's some going to be pulling in around 1/7 of the population on a regular basis considering they're largely shite. Let's remember not everyone in Sunderland either will care about football or be in a position to actually go to games. It's what I've always said, Birmingham and the West Midlands area just isn't obsessed as other regions are about football, maybe due to the more multi-cultural make up perhaps.... Edited April 25, 2016 by VillaChris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 hours ago, penguin said: Within 50 miles of VP there are 15 clubs in the football league, four in the Premiership and four in the championship. Within 50 of the SOL there are 4 clubs, two in the premiership, one in the championship and one league 2. Always makes me laugh when they go on about what a big club they are because their attendance. Obviously has nothing to do with the lack of choice though. And why are there more clubs in the Midlands? Could it be that there are a lot more people in the Midlands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 39 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Very true but what is the population of Sunderland, in any case aswell Newcastle is only 10 minutes away from the Metro, the population of those two combined must still be less than whole West Midlands area. Edit; Just checked and according to 2011 census (o.k wiki) Sunderland has population of 275, 300 so that's some going to be pulling in around 1/7 of the population on a regular basis considering they're largely shite. Let's remember not everyone in Sunderland either will care about football or be in a position to actually go to games. It's what I've always said, Birmingham and the West Midlands area just isn't obsessed as other regions are about football, maybe due to the more multi-cultural make up perhaps.... Isn't this like comparing the population of Aston to Villa's attendances though? When after Newcastle and Boro the next club of note is almost 80 miles away (Leeds), the two in between at 60ish being Carisle and York, they have an absolutely huge area to realistically be pulling people in from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Didn't Keegan mention there being **** all else to do up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: Sunderland have superb home support with the numbers they pull in and also away support for the distance they travel most games. They mostly sell out away games but majority of the time they only take the smaller allocation, but it's still great support for how shit they are and the miles they travel. We have a bigger fan base but for the last ten years or so they have easily beat our attendances for some strange reason. They just seem more loyal in the north east and are more fanatical about their football up there than fans from the Midlands. It's a completely different make up compared to the West Midlands area. Both deprived areas but they are two completely different regions. I don't know if they still do but years back they used to give free tickets to the local schools and community , that way they could ensure a decent crowd ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Without doubt the luckiest, jammiest team I've ever seen. Even worse than Wigan used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Made a good decision in appointing Fat Sam and backing him in January and now looks like it will pay off. He's squeezed a lot more out of a squad of players arguably no better than ours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 On 25/04/2016 at 23:07, LondonLax said: And why are there more clubs in the Midlands? Could it be that there are a lot more people in the Midlands? There are. Many of which though, happen to be of ethnic origin and our support amongst such groups is not high. They tend to support the likes of Liverpool and Man United. A problem they have far less in the North East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Xela said: Made a good decision in appointing Fat Sam and backing him in January and now looks like it will pay off. He's squeezed a lot more out of a squad of players arguably no better than ours. Not that I think Fat Sam would have kept us up but he'd have done a vastly better job than the hopeless Remi Garde and would have been the perfect manager to get us up from the Championship. Another absolutely shit house decision from our outrageously incompetent board. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Not that I think Fat Sam would have kept us up but he'd have done a vastly better job than the hopeless Remi Garde and would have been the perfect manager to get us up from the Championship. Another absolutely shit house decision from our outrageously incompetent board. Yeah we sacked Sherwood about two weeks after Big Sam went to Sunderland which sums things up. If we'd sacked Sherwood after the Leicester debacle or even after the awful performance at home to West Brom a week later we'd have been in pole position to get him as Advocaat hadn't walked at that time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Yeah we sacked Sherwood about two weeks after Big Sam went to Sunderland which sums things up. If we'd sacked Sherwood after the Leicester debacle or even after the awful performance at home to West Brom a week later we'd have been in pole position to get him as Advocaat hadn't walked at that time. To be fair, I reckon had we appointed Pearson at that point, we'd still be in the mix of trying to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I was never actually that confident Pearson would've kept us up if we'd appointed him in October/November. Now we're down a level though, would take him all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Defoe has been a great signing for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: Yeah we sacked Sherwood about two weeks after Big Sam went to Sunderland which sums things up. If we'd sacked Sherwood after the Leicester debacle or even after the awful performance at home to West Brom a week later we'd have been in pole position to get him as Advocaat hadn't walked at that time. This is exactly what I was saying at the time. We were a fortnight too late sacking Sherwood, he deserved less time than he got. Allardyce was always going to go to the first club with a vacancy in the bottom half, and the problem with letting him go elsewhere was not just weakening ourselves but strengthening our direct rivals as well. I really do think he'd have kept us up, though it may have been by the skin of our teeth. Possibly our lack of a decent striker would have sunk us anyway, but even if that were true he'd be exactly the right person to get us promoted next season. Stupid, stupid decision from the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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