Davkaus Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, villakram said: How would this compare with Berlusconi? Sarcozy or Boris? Nevermind the outright corruption running through political leadership in Spain. How does a women who thinks fires are started with space lasers compare to ineffective, lazy and incompetent politicians? I mean, I despise all of those you named, but you're trying to normalise a politician who is quite clearly mentally ill, and I just refuse to accept you can make that comparison with a straight face. Next you'll be comparing Biden to one of those women who get cat ears and a tail surgically attached. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXD Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, villakram said: She's a democratically elected representative. It's really up to the people of her district to cast verdict in 2022. Her sanity or otherwise, who knows. Afterall, politicians are well known to say what "we" like to hear. Where ''we" is whatever polity is needed at a particular time. Are you the guy who keeps fuming about Pelosi and the Democrats? So people with different views = bad guys, people who deny school shootings and harass victims = democratically elected representative. Got it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 hours ago, villakram said: She's a democratically elected representative. It's really up to the people of her district to cast verdict in 2022. Her sanity or otherwise, who knows. Afterall, politicians are well known to say what "we" like to hear. Where ''we" is whatever polity is needed at a particular time. That's a wrap folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 2, 2021 Moderator Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 hours ago, villakram said: She's a democratically elected representative Yeah, from a choice of, er, 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, blandy said: Yeah, from a choice of, er, 1. Not sure what you mean by 'a choice of 1'; she had a general election opponent (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-georgia-house-district-14.html). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 2, 2021 Moderator Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Not sure what you mean by 'a choice of 1'; she had a general election opponent (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-georgia-house-district-14.html). I read the other day her opponent dropped out and left the state something to do with marriage difficulties. Apols if that's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, blandy said: I read the other day her opponent dropped out and left the state something to do with marriage difficulties. Apols if that's wrong. No, it seems you're not wrong - Googling, he did drop out, but his name still appeared on the ballot. EDIT: Actually, the story around this opponent is kind of bizarre, and very slightly suspicious: The Regular Guy Who Almost Challenged Georgia’s QAnon Candidate '[...] Greene’s Democratic challenger, Kevin Van Ausdal, a thirty-five-year-old I.T. specialist, has never held elective office either. Not long ago, he hosted a Zoom town hall. “Glad to see everyone tonight,” he said. “I see a lot of familiar faces, which is great, and I see a lot of new ones, which is just as amazing.” There were eleven people, eight of whom had their cameras off. [...] Last month, Van Ausdal was at home cooking dinner when a police officer rang his doorbell and served him with divorce papers. Van Ausdal said that he and his wife had been having issues, but that “the plan was to wait until after the election and then separate.” (The couple has a young daughter.) The divorce papers required him to leave his house immediately. He spent a few nights in a hotel, but soon ran low on cash. His advisers, in consultation with the Federal Election Commission, determined that he could not use campaign funds to rent an apartment; even sleeping on a friend’s couch might be construed as an illegal campaign contribution. So he drove ten hours, to Indiana, to stay with his parents. Since he no longer lives in Georgia, Van Ausdal is now ineligible to represent the Fourteenth District, and he has suspended his campaign. His advisers wrote to Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, asking that Van Ausdal be disqualified, which would have allowed the Democratic Party to put forward another name. Raffensperger, a Republican, did not grant the request. Now Greene is running unopposed. Van Ausdal insists that his sudden departure from the race was due to a coincidence, not a conspiracy.' from: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/10/26/the-regular-guy-who-almost-challenged-georgias-qanon-candidate Edited February 2, 2021 by HanoiVillan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 US ‘democracy’ leaves a lot to be desired. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, blandy said: I read the other day her opponent dropped out and left the state something to do with marriage difficulties. Apols if that's wrong. Probably threatened by a bunch of nut jobs then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Seeing as the Democrats control the lower house would there actually be an advantage for them to have such an obvious nutcase representing the Republicans? She’ll likely turn off plenty of moderate voters from their brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Just now, LondonLax said: Seeing as the Democrats control the lower house would there actually be an advantage for them to have such an obvious nutcase representing the Republicans? She’ll likely turn off plenty of moderate voters from their brand. I think that's exactly what they think, and is partly why she's suddenly so prominent. Also they figure by trying to force McConnell and McCarthy into a decision about whether to denounce her and support stripping her committee assignments, they can either peg the leadership to her, or else cause a rift between the congressional leadership and the base. They performed a similar move on Steve King, when he gave an interview saying he couldn't understand why white nationalism had a bad rap. He had his committee assignments taken off him (though only after he nearly lost his safe district), but Democrats couldn't get the story going for more than one news cycle anyway. That said, King was a much more boring, grey, middle-aged-man-in-a-suit who was also a white nationalist; I feel like Greene might be easier to keep in the public eye because she seems quite Online. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 5 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: They might be ethically doubtful and straight up corrupt in some cases. But nobody you mentioned compares to what woman. Not a chance. Maybe, but I would dare claim that those who can enact action are more consequential than mere speech; however, outrageous it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Davkaus said: How does a women who thinks fires are started with space lasers compare to ineffective, lazy and incompetent politicians? I mean, I despise all of those you named, but you're trying to normalise a politician who is quite clearly mentally ill, and I just refuse to accept you can make that comparison with a straight face. Next you'll be comparing Biden to one of those women who get cat ears and a tail surgically attached. She's the village loon, and you think she is more dangerous than the Mayor who is privatizing this and that, re-zoning here and there and filling his/his mates pockets with shady dealings. A little perspective please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted February 2, 2021 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, villakram said: She's the village loon, and you think she is more dangerous than the Mayor who is privatizing this and that, re-zoning here and there and filling his/his mates pockets with shady dealings It was that dismissive attitude that landed you the last lunatic President. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, villakram said: She's the village loon, and you think she is more dangerous than the Mayor who is privatizing this and that, re-zoning here and there and filling his/his mates pockets with shady dealings. A little perspective please. Surely you can draw a line between being anti-establishment and a total nutjob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: Surely you can draw a line between being anti-establishment and a total nutjob? Why are you so focussed on the village loon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 31 minutes ago, villakram said: Why are you so focussed on the village loon? Because it’s dangerous misinformation, someone in a position of societal leadership should not be spreading dangerous and malicious misinformation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 hours ago, villakram said: Why are you so focussed on the village loon? Because she represents the hundreds of thousands who voted for her. Then there are the the millions of voters who voted for the Republicans who are supporting her today. She is not an isolated loon. Here's a question: would you have voted against her had she been your Republican candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 6 hours ago, villakram said: Maybe, but I would dare claim that those who can enact action are more consequential than mere speech; however, outrageous it is. You literally just had Donald Trump for president for 4 years. What are you even trying to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Quote Bonus episode: Inside the craziest meeting of the Trump presidency Last month, Axios published "Off the rails," a series taking you inside the end of Donald Trump's presidency, from his election loss to the deadly Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection that triggered his second impeachment — and a Senate trial set to begin next week. In this bonus edition, we take you back into those final weeks — to one long, unhinged night a week before Christmas, when an epic, profanity-soaked standoff played out with profound implications for the nation. Four conspiracy theorists marched into the Oval Office. It was early evening on Friday, Dec. 18 — more than a month after the election had been declared for Joe Biden, and four days after the Electoral College met in every state to make it official. "How the hell did Sidney get in the building?" White House senior adviser Eric Herschmann grumbled from the outer Oval Office as Sidney Powell and her entourage strutted by to visit the president. President Trump's private schedule hadn't included appointments for Powell or the others: former national security adviser Michael Flynn, former Overstock.com CEO Patrick Byrne, and a little-known former Trump administration official, Emily Newman. But they'd come to convince Trump that he had the power to take extreme measures to keep fighting. As Powell and the others entered the Oval Office that evening, Herschmann — a wealthy business executive and former partner at Kasowitz Benson & Torres who'd been pulled out of quasi-retirement to advise Trump — quietly slipped in behind them. The hours to come would pit the insurgent conspiracists against a handful of White House lawyers and advisers determined to keep the president from giving in to temptation to invoke emergency national security powers, seize voting machines and disable the primary levers of American democracy... https://www.axios.com/trump-oval-office-meeting-sidney-powell-a8e1e466-2e42-42d0-9cf1-26eb267f8723.html Long crazy read 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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