HanoiVillan Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 @chrisp65 I don't take it as you defending him at all. It's an extremely important consideration. Foreign policy is one of the two main areas (along with executive branch appointments) that Presidents actually have real power over, and so they *should* play an outsize role in how we evaluate a president. To be clear though, I don't actually think Trump has been *good* at foreign policy in any way, just that Clinton/Biden would/will also have bad points. One dumb/bad thing Trump did we haven't talked about, but should go into the reckoning, was move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, and generally give Netanyahu the go-ahead to do whatever he wants. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Yeah, there’s a whole world of discussion around US / Israel / Arab States / Palestine relations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post snowychap Posted October 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: But your actual drone strikes Trump Escalates Killer Drone War and No One Seems to Care Quote America’s drone wars have become even more destructive at the same time they have become increasingly opaque. The Trump administration has significantly increased the tempo of drone strikes in a number of countries, and it has relaxed the rules governing the targeting of these strikes. The result has been an increased number of civilian casualties with even less accountability than before and no redress for the innocent people caught in the middle of our endless wars. ... The drone war in Somalia is just one part of this campaign, and it exemplifies what is wrong with the open-ended “war on terror.” Like the other wars he inherited, President Trump has significantly escalated it. Through the end of 2019, there had already been 148 U.S. strikes launched in Somalia since Trump took office. In just the first half of 2020, there have been as many U.S. drone strikes in Somalia (40) as there were between 2007 and 2016. In less than three and a half years, Trump has more than quadrupled the number of attacks in Somalia ordered by his last two predecessors. ...more 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 While people might remember the racial killings this year, the riots etc. I doubt anyone even remember the Australian forest fires that killed like hundreds of million of animals. I bet we could google and everyone could basically list one thing each. Those fires burned down an area about 10 x the size of Wales or something over 12 months. I need someone to double check my maths here cause that sounds insane. 18-19 million hectares. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said: While people might remember the racial killings this year, the riots etc. I doubt anyone even remember the Australian forest fires that killed like hundreds of million of animals. I bet we could google and everyone could basically list one thing each. Those fires burned down an area about 10 x the size of Wales or something over 12 months. I need someone to double check my maths here cause that sounds insane. 18-19 million hectares. I think myself and the other Australians on here remember 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 17 hours ago, bickster said: Guiliani needs a test for Mad Cow DIsease not Covid Look up his interview on Bloomberg this morning. Impressive "performance" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 7, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, villakram said: Look up his interview on Bloomberg this morning. Impressive "performance" Link? Can't find it, I'm in the mood for decent stand up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, bickster said: Link? Can't find it, I'm in the mood for decent stand up It doesn't appear to have been split off yet, and might not be given the wealth of wacky available. I though it would be all over the twitter etc., land by now. I heard the radio broadcast live but they do it simultaneously on TV too - car crash TV defined I expect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Kellyanne Conway beefing with her teenage daughter Claudia on Tik-Tok is another high point for the administration... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 hours ago, blandy said: Yes. In Syria, obviously. He also targetted that Iranian murderer general with a successful UAV strike. Plenty (if that's the right word) of things. What's a "murderer general"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Sam-AVFC said: What's a "murderer general"? A regular general on the losing side of a conflict. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: What's a "murderer general"? You know the pacifist general? Not that one. The other one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 7, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I doubt anyone even remember the Australian forest fires that killed like hundreds of million of animals. I remember them. I was there when they were going on. Apocalyptic, though to be fair many were at the end of 2019. But to get back on topic, California has had similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 7, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: You know the pacifist general? Not that one. The other one. Yeah. The witch-finder general's pal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted October 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, blandy said: Yeah. The witch-finder general's pal. This chap? Edited October 7, 2020 by cyrusr Slightly more SFW version of video! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 7, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, cyrusr said: This chap? No. That's Matthew Hopkins, Witchfinder - not his mate. Honestly! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Utterly deranged. China are going to pay. Regeneron is the cure. He asked for the doctors to give it to him so he could test it and now he's giving it everyone for free because it made him better so it's going to cure everyone else too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, darrenm said: Utterly deranged. China are going to pay. Regeneron is the cure. He asked for the doctors to give it to him so he could test it and now he's giving it everyone for free because it made him better so it's going to cure everyone else too. The face! The bloody face. I mean it has never been caked on that badly before has it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 7, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2020 There would be a vaccine before the election, but the Dems won't allow it. Oh sure. He may or may not be clear of Covid symptoms - it's hard to say - but he's definitely ill and his physical condition is the least of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted October 8, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2020 Is there a more punchable face than Pence? I can't articulate how odious he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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