sne Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, LakotaDakota said: Seems to have reached minus $37 per barrel which technically means oil companies are paying buyers to take their oil as nobody wants it and they have nowhere to put it. Eventful year this 2020 so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stevo985 Posted April 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 20, 2020 10 hours ago, VILLAMARV said: 3 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Does communism have a different definition over there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Does communism have a different definition over there? I would genuinely suspect that the people in both those photos would struggle to tell you what communism was. They just know it’s a change away from lazy privilege. I would imagine communism is also a tax on diesel, limits on fully automatic weapons and the move away from lynching as a hobby. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 There are some seriously dangerous nut jobs in the USA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Does communism have a different definition over there? Down south it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, maqroll said: Nicked that one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 4 hours ago, chrisp65 said: You're annoyingly good at American communism placards top trumps then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 While it is easy to mock those protesting. Please remember that health insurance is tied employment in the for profit health care system U.S.A. Hence, people are scared silly by media nonsense related to the virus and worried that they will be financially ruined by this invisible enemy too. Protesting the government that defines this set of circumstances is not so illogical in such a scenario imho. This says nothing about understanding, just basic human behavior... and accounts very little for the entities looking to use this anger/fear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I just wanted to laugh at thicky before the multipolar world comes into effect and we're all vapourised in global conflict. We don't have Jeremy Kyle on the telly any more so it's hard to quickly and easily identify people we feel superior to in order to build up our own self importance. Also you sound a bit like one of them there communists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 13 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: Seems to have reached minus $37 per barrel which technically means oil companies are paying buyers to take their oil as nobody wants it and they have nowhere to put it. What's weird is that futures are $20 +, which I guess means they are expecting growth over the next few months or the opec cuts from May aren't calculated yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 21, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 21, 2020 If you're sick still come, it's your right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Whoopsie daisy. Yeah, it's all just a scam. **** Idiots. Were it not for the fact these stupid words removed will be infecting other innocent people and health workers, I'd say good riddance. There is no excuse for downplaying the virus. These clearings in the woods who take pride in their ignorance, and supporting their cult leader, will have several mantelpiece's full of darwin awards on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LondonLax Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 At this rate Trump is not going to have any supporters still alive to vote for him in November! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted April 21, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 21, 2020 12 hours ago, villakram said: While it is easy to mock those protesting. Please remember that health insurance is tied employment in the for profit health care system U.S.A. Hence, people are scared silly by media nonsense related to the virus and worried that they will be financially ruined by this invisible enemy too. Protesting the government that defines this set of circumstances is not so illogical in such a scenario imho. This says nothing about understanding, just basic human behavior... and accounts very little for the entities looking to use this anger/fear. I kind of agree, I think. I mean if the low paid and at risk of losing their jobs (and thus healthcare) are being failed by the Reps and the Dems, which they seem to have been, and if they're given, additionally, dodgy info by whichever media channels, then...what can they do? they know they need health care and they know they need food and rent and utility money - then they know the most important thing for them, under their circumstances is to be able to work, just to provide for themselves and their families. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Rather perversely, what they appear to need, is socialism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted April 21, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 21, 2020 39 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Rather perversely, what they appear to need, is socialism. I guess they need a form of social democracy, yeah. Not "Socialism" totally (though I suppose how you define that...). But the means of production, distribution, and exchange being owned or regulated by the people is never ever going to work for the US. Their whole ingrained, from the start and from the constitution, goes against that (whether they need it or not - and they don't need it in my view. They just need, as a minimum, social protection - medical care, education etc available to all regardless of wealth or status etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, blandy said: I guess they need a form of social democracy, yeah. Not "Socialism" totally (though I suppose how you define that...). But the means of production, distribution, and exchange being owned or regulated by the people is never ever going to work for the US. Their whole ingrained, from the start and from the constitution, goes against that (whether they need it or not - and they don't need it in my view. They just need, as a minimum, social protection - medical care, education etc available to all regardless of wealth or status etc. I think what @chrisp65 is saying, or what I take him to be saying and think is right is 'what they appear to need is exactly what they perversely dismiss as 'socialism''. We can quibble about the difference between socialism and social democracy if we want, but the truth is most of these people thought Obama was a communist. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I also think this narrative of 'they just want healthcare, guv' is missing how many of the protestors are old enough for Medicare anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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