lp_villa830 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Its brecause he is an annoying, whiny cock. Add that to the fact his not as good as he thinks and you have the perfect recipe for hate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Been an eventful week for Jack.. first caught smoking and also seems to be under the media spotlight for his comment that England players should be born in England (regarding Adnan Januzaj potentially playing for England) I'd say Ramsey has been more impressive on the field too... there is something about him (Wilshere) which means I can't like him not sure what it is. Yes Ramsey has been better this season and is a more likeable character. Nothing wrong with a bit of cockney arrogance though. Wilshere is still only 21. We were talking last season about our young players but they are all older than Wilshere. hes been around a while, had a lot of injury problems. I think he is a major talent and I would rather England build their future around him than stick with lampard and Gerrard who really should have been discarded by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Been an eventful week for Jack.. first caught smoking and also seems to be under the media spotlight for his comment that England players should be born in England (regarding Adnan Januzaj potentially playing for England) I'd say Ramsey has been more impressive on the field too... there is something about him (Wilshere) which means I can't like him not sure what it is. He didn't say that though. This is verbatim. Jack Wilshere: "No, for me if you are English you are English and you play for England. The only people who should play for England are English people. If you live in England for five years it doesn’t make you English. You shouldn’t play ... it doesn’t mean you can play for a country. If I went to Spain and lived there for five years I am not going to play for Spain." Defining nationality is obviously difficult as ultimately it will always come down to how the individual culturally aligns himself. However, Wilshere did not say anything suggesting that people who aren't born in England aren't English/ or shouldn't play for England. His words are being twisted. He is merely against the 'nationalisation' of players who are clearly foreign and are either just not good enough to play for their own respective countries, such as Arteta or Cudicini, or choose 'nationalisation' to play for a 'better' country as our media embarrassingly assume Januzaj will do. Wilshere isn't especially eloquent but I agree with his point in principle. He does need to shut up, stop smoking and concentrate on playing football though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I don't think he's good enough to build a team around. He doesn't score goals. He doesn't create. I don't know what he does, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Kevin Pietersen on Twitter. Shots fired! .@JackWilshere -interested to know how you define foreigner...? Would that include me, Strauss, Trott, Prior, Justin Rose, Froome, Mo Farah? He also forgot Bradley Wiggins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Wilshere comes across as a right prick with those recent comments about Englishness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Kevin Pietersen on Twitter. Shots fired! .@JackWilshere -interested to know how you define foreigner...? Would that include me, Strauss, Trott, Prior, Justin Rose, Froome, Mo Farah? He also forgot Bradley Wiggins. Then KP should read what Jack Wilshere actually said. He doesn't attempt to redefine the contested concept of nationality at all. He merely says that 'only people that are English should play for England'. I highly doubt Januzaj perceives himself as English after living here for about two years, so I believe that is a more than fair retort to the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 You can tell him yourself: @KP24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 You can tell him yourself: @KP24 I imagine his feed is too full of people with extreme opinions on his own nationality and a more passionate desire than me to air their thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Jack Wilshere is the most overrated footballer in England. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 He's an extremely overrated player and one of the biggest words removed in the country. The epitome of the 'English-hype job'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Been an eventful week for Jack.. first caught smoking and also seems to be under the media spotlight for his comment that England players should be born in England (regarding Adnan Januzaj potentially playing for England) I'd say Ramsey has been more impressive on the field too... there is something about him (Wilshere) which means I can't like him not sure what it is.He didn't say that though. This is verbatim. Jack Wilshere: "No, for me if you are English you are English and you play for England. The only people who should play for England are English people. If you live in England for five years it doesn’t make you English. You shouldn’t play ... it doesn’t mean you can play for a country. If I went to Spain and lived there for five years I am not going to play for Spain." Defining nationality is obviously difficult as ultimately it will always come down to how the individual culturally aligns himself. However, Wilshere did not say anything suggesting that people who aren't born in England aren't English/ or shouldn't play for England. His words are being twisted. He is merely against the 'nationalisation' of players who are clearly foreign and are either just not good enough to play for their own respective countries, such as Arteta or Cudicini, or choose 'nationalisation' to play for a 'better' country as our media embarrassingly assume Januzaj will do. Wilshere isn't especially eloquent but I agree with his point in principle. He does need to shut up, stop smoking and concentrate on playing football though.You infered all that from what he said!? You're explanation is quite eloquent. But, looking again at what he said, plus the fact he's a gobshite with two brain cells, I doubt very much what he actually meant is what you've stated. Edited October 9, 2013 by Morley_crosses_to_Withe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 9, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2013 Given the 'form' he is in and the recent negative publicity with the smoking he really should have kept his mouth shut. It would seem Jack isn't the smartest chap answering a question like that, he really should have seen it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 A whiner, pretty talented footballer on the pitch and yet very stupid off the pitch. If I was being charitable I would say his latest comments struck me as coming from the old Viz "Victorian Dad" character. If I wasnt I would say they come as across as xenophobic and probably racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Jack Wilshere is the most overrated footballer in England. He's never had a full season fit though has he and many of us thought Delph would never be worth his transfer fee until he actually was fit and got a full season under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 The stick he is getting over having a smoke outside a nightclub is ridiculous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 A whiner, pretty talented footballer on the pitch and yet very stupid off the pitch. If I was being charitable I would say his latest comments struck me as coming from the old Viz "Victorian Dad" character. If I wasnt I would say they come as across as xenophobic and probably racist. Xenophobic and racist?! God give it a rest and cut the PC shit out. Embarrassing post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 England for the English I say! OT: If Wilshere was a tenth of the player he thinks he is, he'd still be better than he actually is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I think one of his advisers needs to get him of the interweb for a while, as I thiink that what the youngsters say. Just needs to shut up and remember that he is supposed to be a half decent footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) I honestly believe if Wilshire wasn't playing in London he wouldn't be anywhere near this England team. He's probably the weakest Arsenal midfielder and I've seen him play about 6 times this season snd he's been awful in every game. Edited October 10, 2013 by Oaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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