commander Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 On 1/20/2016 at 01:01, theboyangel said: there's a lot more wrong in the team than Westwood. I wish more players had his attitude on the pitch, maybe we'd perform better. HIs attitude? He's a passenger, he hides, doesn't follow his man, doesn't tackle, can't even face someone when he is running into them to give away a stupid, pathetic penalty. He doesn't try to win the ball or tackle, (watch the Norwich Howson goal, just lets Redmond take his time to pick out the ball), he has no defensive nous, just chases after the ball like a 5 year old does in the playground. Even on the ball he's cowardly, he slows the game down, allowing opposition to regroup and get back into position. His attitude and demeanour screams coward. If you disagree, give me an example of him attempting something brave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackbauer24 Posted January 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) I'll 'defend' him. Are any of our players 'good'? Not really. Are any of our players going to be 'legends'? Unlikely. Is he the best player in the squad? No. Is he the worst player in the squad? No. Is he even our worst midfielder? No. Does he mouth off or show a bad attitude? No. There are a lot of issues I have with our club and players before I started attacking, at the very least, a hard working professional player who plays with pride for our club. He's better than Sanchez, he's more reliable than Grealish. He's not N'Zogbia. Which midfielder is he keeping 'out'? Could he be improved on? Of course, but that goes for practically every position. More desperately we need a striker or two, a centre back, a left back, a goalkeeper and then maybe he might be up for 'review'. The hatred by some towards him really astonishes me. Every single one of the people who sit around me at VP week in, week out recognises his contribution to a very poor team/ squad. We might all wish for better but I can say I've never heard his name on the list of 'must go' grumbles or even having such a bad game that there are calls for him to be substituted. Unlike Guzan, Lescott, Clark, Hutton, Sanchez, N'Zogbia, Sinclair, Gabby and Gestede at fairly frequent times. Underrated doesn't mean we think he's great, just that he's the least of our problems. Edited January 22, 2016 by jackbauer24 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 37 minutes ago, commander said: and there was me thinking Benteke left at the end of last season?? And that we stopped wearing last seasons kit erm last season? So, yes it appears this is a "highlights" package of 2 years worth of footage not 4. Apologies. So let's be generous, out of what, lets say 60 games and he can't muster up more 2 mins of footage? Embarrassing. This video is appalling but the people in this thread defending him are even worse. You should be ashamed of yourselves; having watched him over the past 4 years and notice his lack of bottle, cowardlyness and general rubbishness to have any opinion other than he should never play for us again is absolutely astounding. He's not the only person to blame, far, far, far from it but he plays in the most important position on a football pitch in the centre of midfield 'protecting' the defense yet is as timid as a mouse. Wind your neck in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 2 hours ago, commander said: and there was me thinking Benteke left at the end of last season?? And that we stopped wearing last seasons kit erm last season? So, yes it appears this is a "highlights" package of 2 years worth of footage not 4. Apologies. So let's be generous, out of what, lets say 60 games and he can't muster up more 2 mins of footage? Embarrassing. This video is appalling but the people in this thread defending him are even worse. You should be ashamed of yourselves; having watched him over the past 4 years and notice his lack of bottle, cowardlyness and general rubbishness to have any opinion other than he should never play for us again is absolutely astounding. He's not the only person to blame, far, far, far from it but he plays in the most important position on a football pitch in the centre of midfield 'protecting' the defense yet is as timid as a mouse. early contender for worst post of the year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a m ole Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 8 hours ago, commander said: HIs attitude? He's a passenger, he hides, doesn't follow his man, doesn't tackle, can't even face someone when he is running into them to give away a stupid, pathetic penalty. He doesn't try to win the ball or tackle, (watch the Norwich Howson goal, just lets Redmond take his time to pick out the ball), he has no defensive nous, just chases after the ball like a 5 year old does in the playground. Even on the ball he's cowardly, he slows the game down, allowing opposition to regroup and get back into position. His attitude and demeanour screams coward. If you disagree, give me an example of him attempting something brave. not going to waste my time finding specifics but every thing you have written is just plainly untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 22, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) 9 hours ago, commander said: This video is appalling but the people in this thread defending him are even worse. You should be ashamed of yourselves Ashamed of ourselves to have a different view than yours? Go **** yourself. Edited January 22, 2016 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 You should all be very ashamed of yourselves for not having the exact same view as me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 He's not the Messiah...He's a very naughty boy ! Commander you @#:> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) 16 hours ago, commander said: HIs attitude? He's a passenger, he hides, doesn't follow his man, doesn't tackle, can't even face someone when he is running into them to give away a stupid, pathetic penalty. He doesn't try to win the ball or tackle, (watch the Norwich Howson goal, just lets Redmond take his time to pick out the ball), he has no defensive nous, just chases after the ball like a 5 year old does in the playground. Even on the ball he's cowardly, he slows the game down, allowing opposition to regroup and get back into position. His attitude and demeanour screams coward. If you disagree, give me an example of him attempting something brave. I've seen him pass to Gabby at least three times in a match, that's pretty brave. Heck, he even trusts Nzog and Richardson! I was always a fan or his potential contribution but this season I've had enough. I personally feel some of those criticising him are blaming him for our failure and some of those defending him don't actually appreciate what midfield balance is, individual and management. Then there are others who say he's not doing much wrong but he's also not giving enough or using his talents properly, I'd be inclined to agree with them. Edited January 22, 2016 by itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 23, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2016 Tin hat on I thought he was really good today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 He was quality today and should of had an assist. He ran himself into the ground and helped Cissokho out a lot as well as playing some great passes and had a couple of decent shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 He was excellent. Should never play as our deep lying cm. He slows everything down to much. In that position he plays the ball forward, he runs with the ball and is much more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 23, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2016 If Gestede had scored that header from that volleyed Westwood cross it would have been wonderful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 He played well, much prefer him in there over Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I thought he was conference level at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Excellent today. Our midfield is our strongest attribute, we've been dominating possession and games in the PL recently. Shame they don't all chip in with more goals though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Probably our best left midfielder.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 He was OK - nothing special today IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Was fantastic today, just behind Gil for my MOTM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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