Popular Post Risso Posted January 14, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2016 I thought he played quite well against Palace. I'd say the current three of him, Gana and Veretout is about our best combination as it stands. Gana does the all action stuff, Veretout the quality and the attacking, and Westwood the water carrier. He's never going to set the world alight and isn't good enough for anything other than a relegation threatened team, but at least he doesn't make the stupid fuckups that Sanchez does every ten minutes. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I like Westwood, at about a million quid, probably one our best value signings for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottle Maker Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Seeing the stats after the Wycombe game I was amazed at how many touches and passes he had. I think he does far more than he his credited for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Nah he's the worst player in our history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 13 hours ago, Woodytom said: Well he isn't. It's as clear as day that he is a well below par premiership player. Coasts along in games thinking he's Michael Carrick doing very little to actually effect the game. Mind reading, too! Can you tell me what I'm thinking? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbop Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Currently, I'd rather him play than Sanchez, you know what you're getting with Westwood, Sanchez can look brilliant and then ruin it with a moment (or 10) of madness. I still can't get that Arsenal game out of my head last year when he literally gave the ball away about 8 times in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 14, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, AXD said: Baker, Nzogbia, El Ahmadi, bannan to name a few recent ones. and that's not mentioning Lowton, albrighton, weimann or hutton who I liked for some reason, but could be considered worse Yep. I'd add Clark to that list too. Herd, Bennett? Did they make it to 50 appearances? Albrighton is better now, but he wasn't for us. Edited January 14, 2016 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 14, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2016 The trouble with trying to name players with over 50 appearances who aren't as good as Westwood, though I agree with all of the above named, is that shitty players don't play that often in good sides. I'm not saying Westwood is shitty, he's at the lower end of the over 50's that I know of but then in 24 years I've followed them we've never been this bad for this long. So it stands to reason that unless he's a standout player that he'd be amongst that lower end, just by association if nothing else. He'd look better playing in a better side, then we'd not be having this debate. He's better than Steve Sidwell in my opinion, for example, who played 64 times for one of our better teams in those 24 years. To this day I still don't know what Steve Sidwell does. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 We need to get off this petty 50 appearance rubbish. He isn't the worst , and I've seen plenty over the last 50 odd years. But he also isn't nearly good enough for this club or the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 This style of pIay suits him far better, as a possession based game will obviously play to his strength - which is his passing. The problem with Westwood is that he's very, very limited for a CM. He can't really defend and he can't really attack, just good at keeping the ball moving. He's definitely not a 'bad' player but he's only in the team because Sanchez is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 1 hour ago, lexicon said: This style of pIay suits him far better, as a possession based game will obviously play to his strength - which is his passing. The problem with Westwood is that he's very, very limited for a CM. He can't really defend and he can't really attack, just good at keeping the ball moving. He's definitely not a 'bad' player but he's only in the team because Sanchez is out. People underrate how important this skill is though. There are such negative connotations to this "water carrier" role when there really shouldn't be. It's an especially important role for a struggling team like us because we need someone who can focus on trying to keep up the few attacks we do manage get off. If there was one thing Sherwood got right, it was clocking how useful Westwood's ability to keep the ball moving fast (and usually forward) was to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 surprised Lambert hasnt come back in for him or any of his other signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted January 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2016 19 minutes ago, KSV said: surprised Lambert hasnt come back in for him or any of his other signings. Maybe he's been given a budget more than the 5p he got here and can look elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Keyblade said: People underrate how important this skill is though. There are such negative connotations to this "water carrier" role when there really shouldn't be. It's an especially important role for a struggling team like us because we need someone who can focus on trying to keep up the few attacks we do manage get off. If there was one thing Sherwood got right, it was clocking how useful Westwood's ability to keep the ball moving fast (and usually forward) was to us. While it is an important skill, you need another dimension to play CM in the Premiership IMO. You've either got to be a ball winner (Sanchez, Gueye) or more of an attacking threat (Veretout). He offers very little in either of those categories and the Veretout's a more incisive passer with better vision, Gueye's about the same and Sanchez is only a little worse in that area IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbop Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Obviously he's not Carrick, but the comparisons have been made by almost everyone and he generally is the lesser version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Yep, sounds about right. Edited January 15, 2016 by Keyblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 8 hours ago, KSV said: surprised Lambert hasnt come back in for him or any of his other signings. I hope the mumbling oaf does 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 21 hours ago, srsmithusa said: Mind reading, too! Can you tell me what I'm thinking? No i cant read minds. What i can do howevrer, is read. As a result of that I know that Westwood compares his own self to Michael Carrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 15 hours ago, KSV said: surprised Lambert hasnt come back in for him or any of his other signings. Wasn't Westwood happy when Lambert was sacked or something similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Czechlad said: Wasn't Westwood happy when Lambert was sacked or something similar? I recall being surprised by his reaction yes. Somewhat relieved IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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