ferguson1 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Did well last night but should be a squad player. 0 goals from central midfield this season is a big problem. He is not a youngster anymore and Veretout has the makings of being a much better player. We have no better at present and should be replaced in this window or the next. Edited January 13, 2016 by ferguson1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 13 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: So he is the worst villa player of all time with 50 appearances and 'he was out of his depth' (ie: not good enough) at L2 level when he played for Crewe (before we signed him)? They're 2 OTT criticisms levelled at him. If the point that people are OTT is 'rubbish' then you agree with both of those right? Whether he's the worst player with over 50 appearances, nor sure. Not definite but he's certainly in the frame. So it may not be 100% true but it's not OTT. As for the other statement, im not sure. Can't comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Woodytom said: Whether he's the worst player with over 50 appearances, nor sure. Not definite but he's certainly in the frame. So it may not be 100% true but it's not OTT. As for the other statement, im not sure. Can't comment. It's completely OTT and I think even you yourself know that deep down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Worst player with 386 pages on VT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 14, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) He's not even the worst player in the squad with over 50 appearances. 13 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: So he is the worst villa player of all time with 50 appearances and 'he was out of his depth' (ie: not good enough) at L2 level when he played for Crewe (before we signed him)? They're 2 OTT criticisms levelled at him. If the point that people are OTT is 'rubbish' then you agree with both of those right? Don't forget "Gutless worm" and "coward". But no, not OTT at all. Edited January 14, 2016 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) How is that not OTT? It's complete and utter hyperbole. He's not even top 10 worst players at the club right now. Edited January 14, 2016 by Keyblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 35 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: It's completely OTT and I think even you yourself know that deep down. Well I disagree. He really isn't very good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) There's a not-so-subtle difference between not being very good and being the worst player with 50 appearances in the club's 142 year existence. Edited January 14, 2016 by Keyblade 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, Woodytom said: Well I disagree. He really isn't very good at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 This thread should be renamed to Ashley Westwood - Learn about hyperbole in all its glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Well he isn't. It's as clear as day that he is a well below par premiership player. Coasts along in games thinking he's Michael Carrick doing very little to actually effect the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 We spent some time in Division 3 ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: We spent some time in Division 3 ffs Talk us through the players from that era and how they are worse than westwood. Or are you just guessing too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Woodytom said: Well he isn't. It's as clear as day that he is a well below par premiership player. Coasts along in games thinking he's Michael Carrick doing very little to actually effect the game. This is very different to: On 1/9/2016 at 15:26, R.Bear said: I maintain Westwood is the worst Villa player in our history with 50 or more appearances. Which is hyperbole. Worst player in 100+ years with 50+ appearances. It's just staggeringly OTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Just now, StefanAVFC said: This is very different to: Which is hyperbole. Worst player in 100+ years with 50+ appearances. It's just staggeringly OTT. Impossible to back up with evidence maybe. That doesn't mean it's necessarily over the top. Worst player with over 50 apps in premier league certainly wouldn't be far fetched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, Woodytom said: Worst player with over 50 apps in premier league certainly wouldn't be far fetched. Which is around 90 years worth of players less to choose from This is hilarious. 90 years more isn't OTT? Edited January 14, 2016 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 football is all about opinions, because somebody thinks Westwood is worst player in Villa history with 50 games doesnt mean its not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 There's none so blind as those blind to their own blindness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 We really need to start stickying some of these corkers that Useless is coming out with. Absolute bangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Which is around 90 years worth of players less to choose from This is hilarious. 90 years more isn't OTT? You're missing the point. I'm saying I couldn't possibly comment on the other 90 years. Neither could you. So its impossible to say it's OTT or not. You can't say it's definitely not true anymore than a person can say it is. What is undoubted is that ashley westwood, at this level, is pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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