TrentVilla Posted May 4, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 4, 2012 On that basis, it appears that your judgement is clouded by a players footballing ability. Well you are wrong as I've already told you. My view on this has nothing to do with player ability. I don't presume to know how you reach your opinions please don't presume that you are able to know the reasoning behind mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 How on earth can players justify a night on the lash when we are in the midst of a relegation fight, my only surprise is that Bannan wasn't involved. The youngsters seem to be living in a drinking culture there have been recent reports involving them and all day sessions On the clubs part why are they having an awards ceremony this year? They've all been beyond a joke to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 4, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 4, 2012 How on earth can players justify a night on the lash when we are in the midst of a relegation fight, my only disappointment is that Bannan wasn't involved. The youngsters seem to be living in England and I just wish there were recent reports involving them and all day sessions *cough* *innocent whistle* On the clubs part why are they having an awards ceremony this year? They've all been beyond a joke to be fair The players WANTED IT CANCELLED because they didn't feel they deserved it. But fans had bought tickets so they went ahead with it. That's why they had it. They KNOW they've been shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 How on earth can players justify a night on the lash when we are in the midst of a relegation fight because they didnt have work the next day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieB Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Anyone still want to solely blame the manager when it seems some players dont care about the club Didn't MM state on VT a little while ago that there were some poisonous players in our dressing room & McLeish has been tearing his hair out with the lack of team spirit and cliques all season? Still no one listened just back to bashing the manager. I still don't think McLeish is a great man motivator, but I do think the team have been hiding behind the hatred for the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 He's young, they were out for a night, they have brawls on the training pitch ffs. Move along, no need for more dramatic sensationalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I agree Jamaican-Villan - if this were truly sensational - why did it take until Thursday/Friday to come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I agree Jamaican-Villan - if this were truly sensational - why did it take until Thursday/Friday to come out? Think it says a lot about the drinking culture in English football when this isn't seen as sensational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 4, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2012 How on earth can players justify a night on the lash when we are in the midst of a relegation fight, my only surprise is that Bannan wasn't involved. The youngsters seem to be living in a drinking culture there have been recent reports involving them and all day sessions On the clubs part why are they having an awards ceremony this year? They've all been beyond a joke to be fair I hate this attitude. Really really hate it. I'm not just picking on you CI, I've seen it a lot. How can they justify a night on the lash? They're human. If you're having a bad time at work do you lock yourself in your house for the whole year because you don't deserve a night out? And as BOF said, the players didn't want a ceremony. And even if they did, what's the big deal? We've been shit but it's just one night out. The only stupid thing abotu it is it should be after the season has actually finished. None of this makes the incident excusable. The players should apologies, which they have, and they should be punished, which they have. I just hate this attitude that footballers aren't allowed to be human beings, especially the attitude that they ARe allowed, but only if the team is performing. It's just strange. Yes they're role models, and yes they should be more careful than you're everday person. But some people seem to think they should go training, go straight home, and stay in their house until it's time for a match or more training. No-one in any profession works like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 It's not like Carroll glassing someone and Barton beating a man unconscious. Yes, they look like chavs but who gives a stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 How on earth can players justify a night on the lash when we are in the midst of a relegation fight, my only surprise is that Bannan wasn't involved. The youngsters seem to be living in a drinking culture there have been recent reports involving them and all day sessions On the clubs part why are they having an awards ceremony this year? They've all been beyond a joke to be fair I hate this attitude. Really really hate it. I'm not just picking on you CI, I've seen it a lot. How can they justify a night on the lash? They're human. If you're having a bad time at work do you lock yourself in your house for the whole year because you don't deserve a night out? And as BOF said, the players didn't want a ceremony. And even if they did, what's the big deal? We've been shit but it's just one night out. The only stupid thing abotu it is it should be after the season has actually finished. None of this makes the incident excusable. The players should apologies, which they have, and they should be punished, which they have. I just hate this attitude that footballers aren't allowed to be human beings, especially the attitude that they ARe allowed, but only if the team is performing. It's just strange. Yes they're role models, and yes they should be more careful than you're everday person. But some people seem to think they should go training, go straight home, and stay in their house until it's time for a match or more training. No-one in any profession works like that this! if the company you or i worked for was having a crappy time of it, i don't see why we would be expected not to go out and enjoy ourselves if we were off the next day i think fans get the (mistaken) impression that footballers are all about football, like fans are. that's not the case and, if anything, many of them would rather talk about or worry about anything other than football while they're not training/playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slabsquare Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 This will undermine the argument to remove the manager and replace at a cost of around £10m The players have a lot to answer for this season Gibberish Manager responsible for performances on the pitch, and for installing discipline off it. Manager has brought the club into disrepute with his ineptitude and negativity for the last 9 months, not for 50 seconds outside a night club Plenty of dead wood in the club needs to go, and Collins and maybe Delph could be amongst them, but the manager must take the blame first, and has to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 maybe if they played while drunk we'd stand a better chance of winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Storm in a teacup. Well not even that. People drink and get in trouble sometimes, it's not a new scenario it's just that everyone has iPhones to broadcoast it seconds later. I am sure it was even more hopeless back in the days, when people got proper drunk and took a swing at each other. Too bad it wasn't McPenis, he would have been fired instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villamark Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 How on earth can players justify a night on the lash when we are in the midst of a relegation fight, my only surprise is that Bannan wasn't involved. The youngsters seem to be living in a drinking culture there have been recent reports involving them and all day sessions On the clubs part why are they having an awards ceremony this year? They've all been beyond a joke to be fair I hate this attitude. Really really hate it. I'm not just picking on you CI, I've seen it a lot. How can they justify a night on the lash? They're human. If you're having a bad time at work do you lock yourself in your house for the whole year because you don't deserve a night out? And as BOF said, the players didn't want a ceremony. And even if they did, what's the big deal? We've been shit but it's just one night out. The only stupid thing abotu it is it should be after the season has actually finished. None of this makes the incident excusable. The players should apologies, which they have, and they should be punished, which they have. I just hate this attitude that footballers aren't allowed to be human beings, especially the attitude that they ARe allowed, but only if the team is performing. It's just strange. Yes they're role models, and yes they should be more careful than you're everday person. But some people seem to think they should go training, go straight home, and stay in their house until it's time for a match or more training. No-one in any profession works like that this! if the company you or i worked for was having a crappy time of it, i don't see why we would be expected not to go out and enjoy ourselves if we were off the next day i think fans get the (mistaken) impression that footballers are all about football, like fans are. that's not the case and, if anything, many of them would rather talk about or worry about anything other than football while they're not training/playing Should professional player's be drinking during the season?, I know the argument is that they are only human but for me they should be tee total at during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Get rid of all of them, they are a bloody disgrace to AVFC, and take that ginger Nob with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Having watched the video. I can't see what the fuss is about. It's all a bit of a nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I just hate this attitude that footballers aren't allowed to be human beings, especially the attitude that they ARe allowed, but only if the team is performing. It's just strange. Yes they're role models, and yes they should be more careful than you're everday person. But some people seem to think they should go training, go straight home, and stay in their house until it's time for a match or more training. No-one in any profession works like that Not everyone gets paid £50,000 a week for a job in which they need to look after their body and mind to perform in the right manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 These are the sort of headlines that were always attributed to other clubs, never Aston Villa. Since Lerner took control there appears to have been a breakdown in club morals, etiquette and behaviour standards. Oh well, supposed we better get used to it. It isn't going to change anytime soon. The club is an absolute disgrace and rotten to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy_Evergo Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 A professional athlete is different to an office or a factory worker. They have a responsibility to the club to be in the best physical shape possible and they are paid exhorbitant amounts in compensation for this requirement. Part of this wage is also compensation for being a 'public' figure. If the prime minister David Cameron was involved in these incidents, he would be rightfully forced to resign. While a footballer is not held to quite the same level of moral rectitude, they are still public ambassadors for their clubs. It would be 'unprofessional' behaviour at any time during the season but with a relegation fight still ongoing, it was highly disrespectful to the club and the fans. In addition, they get virtually two months holidays that start in a couple of weeks time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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