wiggyrichard Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 As odd as this sounds; I'm glad he's going, but I do think we're losing arguably our best centre back. Me too mate, i would rather have seen Dunne out the door first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 thank god another one of mons deadwood/flops that is going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Mate, a couple of incidents to be fair, the Cowans one is when both should have been let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 As a footballer I've seen far worse play for Villa. The man is a decent enough stopped and in games against equally limited attacks then he does a fine job. He really is crap on the ball though and with Lambert looking to play more of a passing game he really sticks out like a sore thumb. Against attackers with a little guile or pace he is also shown up to be the big lump he is. Added to the fact that he sounds like a poor dressing room influence and crap professional by all accounts we are doing well to get rid. ps I am sure Vlaar will be on lower wages - so all good in my opinion. Just need someone to buy Hutton and Warnock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 yeah I would rather Dunne have gone, but the imperative was to break up the partnership I think. Dunne will go at the end of his contract next summer I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Financially, we would hardly get anything on Dunne however Collins also has 12months to go so least we'll get some money, all this shows is that we will start with a brand new back 4 next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I'll drink to Collins' departure. I imagine he will, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 if i was a guessing man i reckon we are getting around 2m-2.5m for him which is not bad business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I'll drink to Collins' departure. I imagine he will, either way. Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Collins is younger, can imagine dunne retiring soon anyway.. Pushing 33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I would imagine Vlaar's wages will be a lot less than the reported £40k/week Collins is on too, which is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Someone was telly me the other day of a time when our back four was Wright Aitken Arsey Hole I think Mike Mooney can confirm thatI can confirm that it's a myth. As Pilchard said, the only feasible trio was Brown, Arce, Hole, but I'm pretty sure they never actually lined up together. Shame, really. Wouldn't it have been Mick Wright, Oscar Arce and Barrie Hole who were in the squad in 1968/9? Jimmy Brown didn't play in the first team until 1970 IIRC. Mick Wright and Barrie Hole were straightforward football pros. This it the story about Oscar Arce that I remember: He was - according to himself - an Argentinian under 23 international who had travelled to Glasgow to be with his Scottish girlfriend. He was running an antiques shop in Glasgow but fancied getting back into football and wrote to Villa asking if he and his bro, Hector, could have a trial. They were put on the books and proved to be hopelessly out of their depth (although Hector was a bit better than Oscar as I recall) and never got anywhere near the first team. Oscar became a Salifou type figure - worshipped by the fans for being an exotic character but a footballing no-hoper. Both brothers were dispatched by Tommy Docherty when he took over from Tommy Cummings in 1969. Around that time Villa were desperately bad and were on the slide that ended in Division 3. The joke was invented that, if either Oscar or Hector had made it into the first team, we would have had the trio of Wright, Arce, Hole on the team sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Someone was telly me the other day of a time when our back four was Wright Aitken Arsey Hole I think Mike Mooney can confirm thatI can confirm that it's a myth. As Pilchard said, the only feasible trio was Brown, Arce, Hole, but I'm pretty sure they never actually lined up together. Shame, really. Wouldn't it have been Mick Wright, Oscar Arce and Barrie Hole who were in the squad in 1968/9? Jimmy Brown didn't play in the first team until 1970 IIRC. Mick Wright and Barrie Hole were straightforward football pros. This it the story about Oscar Arce that I remember: He was - according to himself - an Argentinian under 23 international who had travelled to Glasgow to be with his Scottish girlfriend. He was running an antiques shop in Glasgow but fancied getting back into football and wrote to Villa asking if he and his bro, Hector, could have a trial. They were put on the books and proved to be hopelessly out of their depth (although Hector was a bit better than Oscar as I recall) and never got anywhere near the first team. Oscar became a Salifou type figure - worshipped by the fans for being an exotic character but a footballing no-hoper. Both brothers were dispatched by Tommy Docherty when he took over from Tommy Cummings in 1969. Around that time Villa were desperately bad and were on the slide that ended in Division 3. The joke was invented that, if either Oscar or Hector had made it into the first team, we would have had the trio of Wright, Arce, Hole on the team sheet. Reminds me of the other one not so long ago, was it.... Given Herd Collins Dunne Warnock ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Reminds me of the other one not so long ago, was it.... Given Herd Collins Dunne Warnock ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Why the **** would anyone want to sign this clown? He certainly isn't as bad as Hutton, but has been shite for over a year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 The frustrating part with Collins, is that on his day he is a very very good centre half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irreverentad Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 The frustrating part with Collins, is that on his day he is a very very good centre half. Its just his last "day" was in January 2010!! I also find it interesting that he cannot get in the Wales team at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 30, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 30, 2012 The frustrating part with Collins, is that on his day he is a very very good centre half. Agreed, which is why someone would want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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