Dodgyknees Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Yep, he has played something like 60 games for us and still makes the same mistakes again and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 18, 2014 Moderator Share Posted August 18, 2014 Oh well, he is probably our 5th choice CB now so I doubt we will see much of him this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I remember when i first saw him in the first team against walsall in a pre season friendly, i honestly thought it was Laursen from a distance, he was that good, i was so excited by his potential back then, he was brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I'd send him out on a season loan to gain more experience - I do think there's an able defender in there somewhere but he's been overused at a young age where his mistakes have been more costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oaks Posted August 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2014 I remember when i first saw him in the first team against walsall in a pre season friendly, i honestly thought it was Laursen from a distance, he was that good, i was so excited by his potential back then, he was brilliant I don't think the situation as a club has helped him. He's had to attempt to mature in a team with awful fullbacks and lack of cover from midfield. He's tested a lot more than a normal centre half, and his inexperience mistakes happen, and because he has to defend more he makes more. Same goes for Clark, but I'm sure Baker will make a better centre half. Stick him along side Vlaar with Cissokho and Hutton at fullback and behind Sanchez I think you will find he will be a lot more composed. We've had the perfect storm of a shite defence for 2 years, inexperienced center halfs playing between inexperienced fullbacks playing behind an inexperienced midfield. They've all been exposed, and might have ruined any chance if any of them reaching their potential. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Great tackle on him but he doesn't seem an intelligent footballer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Great tackle on him but he doesn't seem an intelligent footballer. He's not going to get much more intelligent if he keeps getting all those head injuries, either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 No coincedence that on saturday we played with 4 International defenders, and looked competant.When Baker played, and i saw him have quite a few good games, he played with inexperienced FBs and sometimes Clark.Too inexperienced. Not his fault, i still think he will be ok long term, needs to play alogside an experienced defender for a season or 2 , probably in a lower league, and he will become a good defender. I've said before, and i will say again, at his age, a better defender than Cahill was at the same age, and hes ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I remember when i first saw him in the first team against walsall in a pre season friendly, i honestly thought it was Laursen from a distance, he was that good, i was so excited by his potential back then, he was brilliant I don't think the situation as a club has helped him. He's had to attempt to mature in a team with awful fullbacks and lack of cover from midfield. He's tested a lot more than a normal centre half, and his inexperience mistakes happen, and because he has to defend more he makes more. Same goes for Clark, but I'm sure Baker will make a better centre half. Stick him along side Vlaar with Cissokho and Hutton at fullback and behind Sanchez I think you will find he will be a lot more composed. We've had the perfect storm of a shite defence for 2 years, inexperienced center halfs playing between inexperienced fullbacks playing behind an inexperienced midfield. They've all been exposed, and might have ruined any chance if any of them reaching their potential. I basically entirely agree with all of this. For both Baker and Clark (though probably more so for Baker) timing has been what has ruined him. I really think he would benefit from a loan spell in the Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazvfc Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Great tackle on him but he doesn't seem an intelligent footballer.jeez thought we were talking bout his footballing ability not his pe... Sorry my bad wrong sort of tackle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Off to Wigan on loan till end of the season is the rumour on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Off to Wigan on loan till end of the season is the rumour on Twitter I think that would suit everyone. It's his decision making that turns my guts to water so if he had a full season at a lower level to sort himself he may come back as a useful squad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Off to Wigan on loan till end of the season is the rumour on Twitter Payback for the Holt loan. Nah, he will do well in the Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 He is a strong case of not being ready for the first team but being forced into it. I wouldn't give up on him yet but he needs some time away from the pressure of the premier league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I would imagine he would be very good in the championship. He should go on loan as he won't be playing much at all this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I remember when i first saw him in the first team against walsall in a pre season friendly, i honestly thought it was Laursen from a distance, he was that good, i was so excited by his potential back then, he was brilliant I don't think the situation as a club has helped him. He's had to attempt to mature in a team with awful fullbacks and lack of cover from midfield. He's tested a lot more than a normal centre half, and his inexperience mistakes happen, and because he has to defend more he makes more. Same goes for Clark, but I'm sure Baker will make a better centre half. Stick him along side Vlaar with Cissokho and Hutton at fullback and behind Sanchez I think you will find he will be a lot more composed. We've had the perfect storm of a shite defence for 2 years, inexperienced center halfs playing between inexperienced fullbacks playing behind an inexperienced midfield. They've all been exposed, and might have ruined any chance if any of them reaching their potential. It would be foolish to ignore your comments....it is very difficult to assess players when so much collectively was wrong. The same could be said for any of our young players. How we survived last season I will never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Think one of the main reasons we have looked so solid is that this guys not in the side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Aww... When I saw this thread bumped up, I thought maybe it had been reported that he was off or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Going around on Twatter that Baker has been suspended by Villa lol!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I came here in the hope of making sense of the twitter rumours... anyone know what has happened? I really don't want to brave twitter for an answer* *the chance of finding this on twitter is near impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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