VillaChris Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 The less said about his 5 second contribution at RB before the 2nd goal the better. Still might have had a goal at the end if N'zog had passed earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 His running off the ball, creating space for other players , was superb when he came on.The midfield of Herd, Ireland , and Herd had a really nice balance to it tbh.Was never a free kick in a million years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 .The midfield of Herd, Ireland , and Herd had a really nice balance to it tbh That Herd fella must have some energy to play 2 roles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Oh , hes everywhere Zatman. Meant Jenas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Thought he was, well, not so much poor; more the wrong man to bring on to see out the game. Actually, **** it I thought he was just plain poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Agree with Gareth. Ireland came on and the Norwich player blew right by him for the cross which resulted in a goal. Although Hutton was yards out of position forcing Ireland to cover at RB. I was surprised Clarke or Delph didn't replace Petrov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 The Norwich goal summed his career up at Villa. Lack of desire. He had just come on, he isn't a defender but the effort put in was exactly as it has been whenever he plays, minimal. Half heartedly closes him down, basically just allows the attacker to cross it without actually having to do anything other than have a touch out of his feet. Dangled a leg out and hoped it was enough. Just move him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Can't we do a straight swap for Yaya Toure lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 To be fair to him he was covering Hutton who was out of position due to being fouled and we should have had a free kick for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 To be fair to him he was covering Hutton who was out of position due to being fouled and we should have had a free kick for that. And this explains the lack of effort, how? The guys a passenger and we cannot afford such a luxury, even Bent is better at tackling back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCAM Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 You see, I've got to disagree slightly here. I don't think he showed lack of effort at all, he showed that he is out of practice. The lad only seems to get a few minutes here and there, he'd started to look ok by the Wigan game having had a few games under his belt, now, a month later he's thrown back in. I was sat in row 6 of C6 so saw his 'defending' and I was disappointed, but after that he was constantly running, he always wanted the ball and towards the end made a 40 yard run to try and support N'Zogbia (who made the wrong choice again). Although NZ did look quicker than previous games, which shows some improvement too. He's not a defender, many attackers find that they are shit defenders, especially when they are still not playing regularly. He's on a huge amount of money with years on his contract to burn, he has us over a barrell, he can just sit and earn his money if he wants, nobody else will pay him this much. Why don't we just support him, at least this way we might get some use out of him. Bad defending yes, but it was his first 'contribution' (or non contribution) of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpabloangel18 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 he just shouldn't have been brought on in that situation. I would be perfectly happy to never see him in the squad again tbh, i have no confidence in him whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 The Norwich goal summed his career up at Villa. Lack of desire. He had just come on, he isn't a defender but the effort put in was exactly as it has been whenever he plays, minimal. Half heartedly closes him down, basically just allows the attacker to cross it without actually having to do anything other than have a touch out of his feet. Dangled a leg out and hoped it was enough. Just move him on. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 He wasnt great on Saturday in fairness. Unforuntately for him, I see him moving down the CM pecking order every week with the likes of Bannan, Jenas and Herd all staking a claim to partner Petrov. He and Delph will both need to prove they merit a place in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Agreed - he was powderpuff for their goal but then that is his game. He struggles at the best of times to get a challenge in. Its funny because when Hutton went forward I thought "oh nice to see him dropping in to cover" but then 2 seconds later I thought he may as well have not bothered. He did get forward well and made a couple of nice passes. As you say he's dropping ever further down the pecking order so its difficult to see him ever getting the confidence he needs. Unfortunately just as Beye's contract finally comes to an end we have gone and bought another squad player on mega bucks .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Can't we do a straight swap for Yaya Toure lol I think even Derren Brown would struggle to convince Mancini that it was a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy_0'Neill Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 The Norwich goal summed his career up at Villa. Lack of desire. He had just come on, he isn't a defender but the effort put in was exactly as it has been whenever he plays, minimal. Half heartedly closes him down, basically just allows the attacker to cross it without actually having to do anything other than have a touch out of his feet. Dangled a leg out and hoped it was enough. Just move him on. And you would have gotten the same half hearted tackle from David Silva or Samir Nasri in that position. They are small technical players and it's just not in their locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Yeah, blaming him for the goal is a bit harsh. Albrighton is absoloutely dreadful when it comes to defending but I don't think you can really criticise him for lack of desire or not trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca_UTV Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 no desire makes u laff. there goal come from nzogbia losing the ball hutton being out of position. Warnock was more at fault than anyone on the pitch. Out of position let his man have an easy header at the back post. Too many people jump on the band wagon to have a go at ireland. What about when he ran the whole length of the pitch but nzogbia never passed him the ball. If he did pass him the ball and he scores does he go from having no desire to having lots of desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Villan Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 no desire makes u laff. there goal come from nzogbia losing the ball hutton being out of position. Warnock was more at fault than anyone on the pitch. Out of position let his man have an easy header at the back post. Too many people jump on the band wagon to have a go at ireland. What about when he ran the whole length of the pitch but nzogbia never passed him the ball. If he did pass him the ball and he scores does he go from having no desire to having lots of desire. Absolutely this. The trouble is, I really can't see Ireland winning over the doubters at Villa now unless he starts scoring a hattrick every other game while getting back for a few goal-line clearances/Bobby Moore style saving tackles at the other end. Just putting in good solid 7/10 performances with some nice passing and movement isn't going to cut it, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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