TRO Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 He is a Knob Head....for not having a Driver, when he has a drink....but £82,000 fine , is taking the piss. did the judge phone stockley Park, before giving his judgment? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Personally I think he deserves his banning by driving a Land Rover. Just think of the CO2 emissions people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, lexicon said: bet he hardly had a clue about what was going on. I'm sure he didn't. I wasn't trying to make a point about Hamilton. Just as an illustration of how difficult the tax avoidance things have to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, darrenm said: I'm sure he didn't. I wasn't trying to make a point about Hamilton. Just as an illustration of how difficult the tax avoidance things have to be. Understood - sorry, I just get annoyed when I see Hamilton getting singled out for stuff like this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just stop driving in the future and concentrate on your football, keep your head down and just focus on your career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, TRO said: He is a Knob Head....for not having a Driver, when he has a drink....but £82,000 fine , is taking the piss. did the judge phone stockley Park, before giving his judgment? the more serious driving fines nowadays are based as a % of your salary/income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: People who are genuinely still trying to insinuate that he might have just been " tired " or just a terrible driver simply blow my mind. Someone there at the time also claimed there was a white powderey substance on the passenger seat. ( Obviously could be bollox but could also explain the energy in the morning and irrational thinking lol ) He was at Ross McCormacks ffs, do you tink he was having a wholesome player get together all night? Ive probably done worse in my younger years to be honest, but this pedastal where people legit will be blind when he does things wrong is frankly quite dangerous, and probably a part of the reason he aint dissuaded from doing them. Doesnt matter how good he is, e deserves blasting when he deserves it, and if he doesnt learn his career could very well tank along with it just like many other players we have seen go the same route. If this was an opposition player the knives would be out. Love isnt blind, its just plain retarded obviously. lol Remember saying similar at the time. No chance he is sober at the point he gets in that car. The guy was a **** idiot for doing it and deserves punishment. Defending it is ridiculous, like those trying to defend JT for the incident with Anton Ferdinand. Sometimes you have to take the claret and blue specs off. I'd say he's fortunate he hit those cars, forcing him to stop. Could have been a lot worse if he'd made it onto a main road. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, ender4 said: the more serious driving fines nowadays are based as a % of your salary/income. oh, ok thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Remember saying similar at the time. No chance he is sober at the point he gets in that car. The guy was a **** idiot for doing it and deserves punishment. Defending it is ridiculous, like those trying to defend JT for the incident with Anton Ferdinand. Sometimes you have to take the claret and blue specs off. I'd say he's fortunate he hit those cars, forcing him to stop. Could have been a lot worse if he'd made it onto a main road. These are the two times he got caught as well, you would have to assume it's likely he drives like an idiot on a more regular basis, either that or he is very unlucky. When you're given money to burn from a young age and idolised by thousands of people it must be easy to lose perspective or feel you're untouchable. Hopefully this is a reality check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Remember saying similar at the time. No chance he is sober at the point he gets in that car. The guy was a **** idiot for doing it and deserves punishment. Defending it is ridiculous, like those trying to defend JT for the incident with Anton Ferdinand. Sometimes you have to take the claret and blue specs off. I'd say he's fortunate he hit those cars, forcing him to stop. Could have been a lot worse if he'd made it onto a main road. its not like at all......you are feeding you own narrative, once again. I think Jack is an idiot.....but, his case is current and he could have physically hurt someone Johns case was 9 years ago. I was opposed to it being dug up after all this time.....not defending him in the judgment, that has been given, because i have insufficient info to do so........get your facts right......but this is not physically damaging, so its not like at all. Edited December 15, 2020 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Reversed into a car twice. Drives erratically then in his attempt to pull over jumps a curb. One is bad. Three is clear as day he was pissed as a fart OK thought I must be missing something. But if he was smashed wouldn't it be a bigger story? Genuinely asking that video is the first I've seen of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Finally looked at the video of it, that is shocking Jack. You should be embarrassed, thankfully nobody was hurt. Love you as a footballer but you need to sort your head out around your driving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted December 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, villaglint said: OK thought I must be missing something. But if he was smashed wouldn't it be a bigger story? Genuinely asking that video is the first I've seen of it. he fled the scene so never got breathalyzed until either later that day or might have even been the next day. so there was technically no proof 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I just saw the video of him crashing his Range Rover into parked cars. He must have been hammered to be that reckless. Shocking stuff really. With all the money and flash cars these guys drive, why they risk their careers by drink driving is incredible to me. I pretty much would pay a driver all the time unless I was just blasting around for fun if I had that money. On the pitch he makes all the right decisions and for the most part, makes the right ones with his interviews and general behaviour. Except when he's had a drink where he seems a be a complete liability. If this doesnt make him wise up then nothing will. However £80k is ludicrous. How its legal to fine rich people more is a disgrace. That's why we have bans. No matter how rich you are, you drive when banned then you could go to jail, same for everyone. Ant McPartlin got that monster fine too, just because he's rich. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 29 minutes ago, tomav84 said: he fled the scene so never got breathalyzed until either later that day or might have even been the next day. so there was technically no proof Indeed, though a witness claims he stank of booze, but that's not considered proof. Certainly enough for the court of popular opinion combined with the footage though. Not enough for the courts, but it's blatantly obvious he was pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, R.Bear said: However £80k is ludicrous. How its legal to fine rich people more is a disgrace. That's why we have bans. No matter how rich you are, you drive when banned then you could go to jail, same for everyone. Ant McPartlin got that monster fine too, just because he's rich. They changed the law about 3 years ago, the fine is based on your earnings, same for everyone, if anything it stops rich people or even well off people from not caring Its a calculation based on offence and weekly wage, capped at 175% so the more you earn the bigger the fine 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 It is well under a week's wages for Grealish. Obviously 80k for a normal person is outrageous, it'd bankrupt most people. This is the equivalent of the average earner paying about £400. The crux of the matter is he was only prosecuted for careless driving. He fled the scene, and so couldn't be prosecuted for driving under the influence, even though he clearly was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I used to cycle home a lot when pissed as **** and never had any issues really, in terms of being all over the road or falling off. My point is for him to drive that erratically means he must have been utterly wrecked. Would it surprise me if he was on gear as well? Not at all but at the very least, when coked up, you wouldnt be making those mistakes after a skinfull so I believe he was "only" drunk. As for leaving the scene, obviously from a moral standpoint its the wrong thing to do but as no-one was injured and the ban and fine would have been 10 times worse had he stayed, it was the right thing to do to get his ass out of there. A broken clock is right twice a day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 hours ago, birdman said: He mounted someone else dangerously too Mason Mount mounts better though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, TRO said: its not like at all......you are feeding you own narrative, once again. I think Jack is an idiot.....but, his case is current and he could have physically hurt someone Johns case was 9 years ago. I was opposed to it being dug up after all this time.....not defending him in the judgment, that has been given, because i have insufficient info to do so........get your facts right......but this is not physically damaging, so its not like at all. Haha You know its not always about you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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