mikeyp102 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Any video of the incident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, AV82 said: Besides today (which wasn't a dive) has he ever been booked for diving in his entire career? Would love the club to actually do some research on this and publish it. They need to turn around the diving Grealish narrative somehow. I found all his (5) yellows last season (no small effort ). Villa 3 - 2 Wigan. Booked for a foul. Villa 2 - 2 Brentford. Booked for dissent. Shef Utd 4 - 1 Villa. Booked for a foul. Villa 3 - 3 Preston. Threw the ball away after winning a foul. SHA 0 - 1 Villa. Booked for his celebration. And he was the most fouled player in the division, often getting wiped out in the first few seconds of a match, as a deliberate tactic by opponents. His playing style draws fouls, and in the modern game you can't play like Gazza with your elbows flying around to protect you. You need protection from the referee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) I feel so sorry for Jack. Got nothing from the ref all game. Was getting stick from many in the match thread but imo was the only player trying to make something happen. In the end, he did make something happen and it got wrongly disallowed in an absolutely ridiculous decision. I'd be furious if I was him. Edited August 31, 2019 by PieFacE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Jack does have a "reputation" now. And that reputation is - you can foul him and cheat as much as you like and the referees will let you do it. Its really outrageous. No wonder Pep loses his mind with how PL refs dont protect skillfull players and in fact actively encourage injury on them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Some acknowledgement at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Ken McNaughts Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Jack does have a "reputation" now. And that reputation is - you can foul him and cheat as much as you like and the referees will let you do it. I think Smith needs to be pushing this into the public eye with his press conferences between now and West Ham game. Quote the foul stats if need be. Quote the fact he has never been booked for diving. As someone commented above (apologies for forgetting who) we need to re-shape the narrative around Jack and point out just what bullshit it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 He didn't even ask for a pen. Are you not allowed to fall to the ground without it being a dive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mole86 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: He didn't even ask for a pen. Are you not allowed to fall to the ground without it being a dive? Not only did he not appeal, he actually provided an assist as he was falling to the ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted August 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: He didn't even ask for a pen. Are you not allowed to fall to the ground without it being a dive? IIRC, he was up on his feet before Lansbury took the shot and the first one over to celebrate. Some dive, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Ironically enough the refs name is "Friend" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, villalad21 said: He didn't even ask for a pen. Are you not allowed to fall to the ground without it being a dive? Referees seem to be actively looking for diving now rather than actually doing the job they are paid for. Happened to James at manure a week or so ago. People are so obsessed with it their actually calling clear fouls as dives now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Got an assist today, others can say otherwise but was an assist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, Five Ken McNaughts said: I think Smith needs to be pushing this into the public eye with his press conferences between now and West Ham game. Quote the foul stats if need be. Quote the fact he has never been booked for diving. As someone commented above (apologies for forgetting who) we need to re-shape the narrative around Jack and point out just what bullshit it is not saying its the way but if Terry was on the pitch this wouldn't of happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Hope Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Jenas on MOTD didn't pull any punches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Look we were poor in the game but its one of worst decisions ive seen. Truth is if Rashford, Salah or Tammy in the same position it would be allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted September 1, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2019 I think if we played 4-3-2-1 (Christmas tree) it would push Jack further forward and maybe we'd get more out of him. This is actually where Sherwood (although I think he's a charlatan) played him with N'Zogbia (2 number 10's.) He had a lot more freedom in that role. With our squad we could go: Heaton Guilbert Mings Engels Taylor Nakamba Luiz McGinn Jota Jack Wesley This would also give us a little more muscle in the middle. Width could be provided either by the fullbacks or Jota and Jack spinning out wide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, TheAuthority said: I think if we played 4-3-2-1 (Christmas tree) it would push Jack further forward and maybe we'd get more out of him. This is actually where Sherwood (although I think he's a charlatan) played him with N'Zogbia (2 number 10's.) He had a lot more freedom in that role. With our squad we could go: Heaton Guilbert Mings Engels Taylor Nakamba Luiz McGinn Jota Jack Wesley This would also give us a little more muscle in the middle. Width could be provided either by the fullbacks or Jota and Jack spinning out wide. Been banging on about this . Gotta try it. Would also bring out the best of Jota. Would be like playing with 10 men with Taylor though as your width needs to come from your fullbacks. But if Sherwood could make it work with Kieren Richardson then **** it, let's give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 2 hours ago, New_Hope said: Jenas on MOTD didn't pull any punches! I mean, if there's one good thing to come out of this - which obviously doesn't make up for having a perfectly good goal ruled out - it would be demoting Mr Friend to referee some lower-league matches, because even impartial observers seem to agree that was one of the worst decisions made in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) I'm as angry as the next fan about this. He does get clattered twice before he goes down, he does play the ball to Henri, BUT.... Hand on heart the last split second he does the I've been shot by a snipper flip. If he just falls without doing that, the goal stands or we get a penalty. Edited September 1, 2019 by villan_007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, villan_007 said: I'm as angry as the next fan about this. He does get clattered twice before he goes down, he does play the ball to Henri, BUT.... Hand on heart the last split second he does the I've been shot by a snipper flip. If he just falls without doing that, the goal stands or we get a penalty. Pretty much. Fouled twice and lost balance. No chance of diving, but that theatrical finish was not needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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