Hanky Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I.e. any big moves need time to happen and the Dunne transfers was relying on Lescott etc....but for example like Warnock. Why did it take so long to get a deal done. I recall Blackburn holding that one up I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Yeah, they were waiting to get a replacement. Twas Chimbonda in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4rvillan Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I.e. any big moves need time to happen and the Dunne transfers was relying on Lescott etc....but for example like Warnock. Why did it take so long to get a deal done. I recall Blackburn holding that one up I think. This, I remember Fat Sam saying in the press a couple of weeks before the transfer that Warnock was unsettled about transfer speculation when it hadn't been widely reported in the press that we were in for him. All we tend to find out as outsiders is when a transfer is completed, we never know when negotiations begin for a player as the OS only tell when a fee is agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Outside of football, Akinfeev likes to dress bears in navy outfits and make them re-enact his favourite scenes from Sergei Eisenstein's classic film "The Battleship Potemkin". I spent the weekend writing an essay on that fookin' film. I'm guessing the Odessa Steps sequence and the birth of juxtaposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carew_villa Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I heard we're interested in Tomkins and Collison. I think Collison would be a good signing and West Ham are apparently interested in Sidwell so we could do a swap deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 This thread, like all things, is eventually begining to descend into chaos. Only instead of a rather simplistic locking which ends most things, we will have months of boring, tedious and downright silly arguements. Yay. This. Best to pop in occasionally just to point and laugh :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Maybe he doesn't, thats just the way it turns out. Truth is, we dunno. I'd, however, suggest that logic dictates you'd want the players in quickly because that's better for you. Doesn't mean everything goes your way and doesn't mean you can just get them in. Of course. I understand that and don't expect all transfers to be done but around half. Let's be honest, in his whole time as Villa manager, generally, we signed players towards the later stages of the window rather than the first 6 weeks. So it's obviously something he prefers rather than sorting out the deals early. As we know, he goes on holiday just after the season as well. It's not as if, he's been in charge 4 seasons and been late in moving just once. It's every year. I believe getting the right player is more important than the time but it would be nice and beneficial if we did do transfers a little earlier... Maybe the wheeler-and-dealer in MON knows that if he does his deals near the end of the window, then the clubs we're buying from don't have as long to try and get a better price. It's our price or nothing. Although.. if that was the preferred method then we'd have to be constantly crossing our fingers that our targets didn't get sold to other clubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 We need at least 5 players in and I doubt we will be getting anyone in until we ship out the players who arent getting a game but are still being paid big wages players out harewood,osbourne,beye,shorey,l.young(don't agree with this one),salifou,sidwell,coker?, heskey&carew that's alot of work to replace those players with players who can help us get stronger as a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 It's not chaos - these threads have a particular structure they follow each year. We start with the "when's the window open", then progress to the Miguel and Zigic links, followed by the "When is MON back from holidays". We are about to move on to the "all the good players will be gone if MON doesn't get a move on" phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 8, 2010 Moderator Share Posted June 8, 2010 The express says Twitchy is looking at a £22m package to take Agbonlahor to Spurs, of course it includes £12m of Robbie Keane in that. May I be the first to say - piss off Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RA19 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Harry in true to form 'he ain't coming here, he's going to [club x]' - then later says 'of course we're interested'. Doing it with Joe Cole now. Suppose it's quite clever way really of letting player know of his interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogMan Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Harry in true to form 'he ain't coming here, he's going to [club x]' - then later says 'of course we're interested'. Doing it with Joe Cole now. Suppose it's quite clever way really of letting player know of his interest. Thought Cole was Arsenal bound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 8, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2010 If someone was to offer us 22m cash for Gabby I'd take it! 15m cash and Robbie Keane, i'd take it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 If someone was to offer us 22m cash for Gabby I'd take it! 15m cash and Robbie Keane, i'd take it... I wouldn't. In 2 years time we'd be regretting it - Keane would be winding down his career and Gabby will probably still be improving and breaking into the England team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 If someone was to offer us 22m cash for Gabby I'd take it! 15m cash and Robbie Keane, i'd take it... Not a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 8, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2010 Yeah i've always just been one of these people who has never really rated Gabby that highly. Although he does keep improving every year, so if that continues, i'll be more then happy to say i'm wrong. Dont get me wrong i do like Gabby, but when people are saying Milner aint worth 30m, then i don't really think Gabby is worth 22m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 PieFacE, I suppose it boils down to whether we value a player at what he is ACTUALLY worth or what a team would pay for him. If we were in debt and needed to sell some players straight away then we'd probably get a price closer to their real value. Milner - £17m? Gabby - £13m? Young - £15m? They're my guesses. But we'd be stupid to sell them for that amount in our current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Looks like Milos Krasic is off to Juve for 15 million - cracking player for a great price. Although I doubt he would ever sign for us without finishing forth though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 8, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2010 PieFacE, I suppose it boils down to whether we value a player at what he is ACTUALLY worth or what a team would pay for him. If we were in debt and needed to sell some players straight away then we'd probably get a price closer to their real value. Milner - £17m? Gabby - £13m? Young - £15m? They're my guesses. But we'd be stupid to sell them for that amount in our current situation. Totally agree, and you're probably right with those figures! I'd like to think if we were to sell Gabby for £22m, then we could replace him with much better for the same cost. Although, i don't know anyone who to replace him with, so my argument is pretty stupid really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 PieFacE, I suppose it boils down to whether we value a player at what he is ACTUALLY worth or what a team would pay for him. If we were in debt and needed to sell some players straight away then we'd probably get a price closer to their real value. Milner - £17m? Gabby - £13m? Young - £15m? They're my guesses. But we'd be stupid to sell them for that amount in our current situation. Totally agree, and you're probably right with those figures! I'd like to think if we were to sell Gabby for £22m, then we could replace him with much better for the same cost. Although, i don't know anyone who to replace him with, so my argument is pretty stupid really Only as stupid as this topic... :winkold: ... which I actually enjoy! For £22m we could probably buy Radamel Falcao lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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