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30 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

Yeah they're not messing about

Talk all week about carnival being cancelled next Feb and talk this morning about no Xmas markets 

The tourism € must be taking a huge hit 

I went to Karneval in Koeln this year - the weekend before Wembley. Looking back, can't believe the former took place and feels weird to think about the latter too!

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20 hours ago, snowychap said:

With you there but isn't schnitzel Austrian?

Wiener Schnitzel (made properly with veal, "Viennese Schnitzel") is, in Germany "schnitzel" becomes almost a catch-all for escalopes, usually pork but sometimes chicken.  Unsure from where specifically the dish originated though.

Actually having read-up on it, appears the true origins of the Wiener Schnitzel itself are a bit of a mystery...

The designation Wiener Schnitzel first appeared in the 19th century, with the first known mention in a cookbook from 1831.[5] In the popular southern German cookbook by Katharina Prato, it was mentioned as eingebröselte Kalbsschnitzchen (roughly, 'breaded veal cutlets').[6]

According to a tale, field marshal Joseph Radetzky von Radetz brought the recipe from Italy to Vienna in 1857. In 2007, linguist Heinz Dieter Pohl could prove that this story had been invented.[7] According to Pohl, the dish is first mentioned in connection with Radetzky in 1869 in an Italian gastronomy book (Guida gastronomica d'Italia), which was published in German in 1871 as Italien tafelt, and it is claimed that the story instead concerned the cotoletta alla milanese. Before this time, the story was unknown in Austria. The Radetzky legend is however based on this book, which claims that a Count Attems, an adjutant to the emperor Franz Joseph I of Austria gave a notice from Radetzky about the situation in Lombardy and mentioned a tasty veal steak in a margin note. After Radetzky had returned, the emperor personally requested the recipe from him.[6]

Pohl relates this anecdote with the words: "This story is scientifically meaningless, it does not cite any sources and it is not mentioned […] in the literature about Radetzky. No such Count Attems appears in any biographical work about the Austrian monarchy, which would have corresponded to this time and position."[6]

Pohl doubts that Wiener schnitzel came from Italy at all, with the basis that in the other "imported dishes" in Austrian cuisine, the original concept is mentioned, even if in Germanised form, such as in goulash or Palatschinke (that is, pancake), and the schnitzel does not appear even in specialised cookbooks about Italian cuisine.[8]

Pohl hints that there had been other dishes in Austrian cuisine, before the Schnitzel, that were breaded and deep fried, such as the popular Backhendl, which was first mentioned in a cookbook from 1719. The Schnitzel was then mentioned in the 19th century as Wiener Schnitzel analogically to the Wiener Backhendl.[6]

Documents in the Milan archive of Saint Ambrose dated 1148 use the Latin name lumbolos cum panitio,[9] which can be translated as "little chops with breadcrumbs". This can be a hint that a dish similar to the cotoletta alla milanese already existed at that time.

In 1887, E. F. Knight wrote of a Wienerschnitzel ordered in a Rotterdam cafe, "as far as I could make out, the lowest layer of a Wienerschnitzel consists of juicy veal steaks and slices of lemon peel; the next layer is composed of sardines; then come sliced gherkins, capers, and diverse mysteries; a delicate sauce flavours the whole, and the result is a gastronomic dream."[10]

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I just learned today that in the UK you have to pay for annual TV licences, enforced by a private company that sends threatening letters and comes around to your house to enquire about whether you own a TV or not. 

I'm sure this is normal to all of you, but my mind is blown. I can't immediately think of a more insanely pointless level of bureaucracy. Surely you could just fund the BBC through general taxation and avoid paying for that entire enforcement department? 

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17 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said:

I just learned today that in the UK you have to pay for annual TV licences, enforced by a private company that sends threatening letters and comes around to your house to enquire about whether you own a TV or not. 

I'm sure this is normal to all of you, but my mind is blown. I can't immediately think of a more insanely pointless level of bureaucracy. Surely you could just fund the BBC through general taxation and avoid paying for that entire enforcement department? 

We had the same system in Sweden before but a lot of people stopped paying the licence and now it's general taxation.

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27 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said:

I just learned today that in the UK you have to pay for annual TV licences, enforced by a private company that sends threatening letters and comes around to your house to enquire about whether you own a TV or not. 

 

If you think that's mad, they've convinced people that they have machines that detect TVs, and drive around the country in vans with big antenna on the top hunting out people who are watching telly without paying the BBC tax.

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31 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said:

I just learned today that in the UK you have to pay for annual TV licences, enforced by a private company that sends threatening letters and comes around to your house to enquire about whether you own a TV or not. 

They can come around but unless they have a court order (extremely unlikely) you don't have to let them in or even speak to them! Its bully boy tactics that force 95% of people to pay by fear. 

I'd disband it completely and let the BBC TV run as a subscription service. Or have adverts to fund it.  

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Clearing out the garage and found six bottles of homebrew cider from several years ago. No idea whether it's going to be drinkable. Will try a bottle later. 

UPDATE: Too sour, down the sink it goes. 

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49 minutes ago, Withnail said:

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OK, I get the Latin countries one, but the far eastern one seems a bit mad. Is it because it resembles a pictogram for some word or other? 

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2 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

OK, I get the Latin countries one, but the far eastern one seems a bit mad. Is it because it resembles a pictogram for some word or other? 

Latin one is probably the best tbh. Followed by the British influenced one. The Asian one is just too busy and seems like it requires too much accuracy

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A bit confused, because I use the 'latin countries' one, but I learned it in Vietnam. Maybe it's a carryover from French colonialism? (Or maybe the picture is wrong?) Even more confusingly, in two and a half years in China and South Korea, I never saw the 'asian' one, only the standard one we use in the UK.

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EL Al flew it’s first ever commercial flight into the UAE today , and was allowed to fly over Saudi air space whilst doing so (also a first)

And all it took was a common foe in Iran to make the countries decide to talk....

 

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