Davkaus Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, StefanAVFC said: This though There has seemed to be a trend in recent weeks that if the player is on their way to ground, handball just doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, LondonLax said: Because he didn’t play at it and could do nothing about it? Those should never be given. The bigger travesty is that they sometimes are. In theory it shouldn't matter whether he meant to or not, whether he could do anything about it or not. At its essence, the handball rule isn't there to vilify or punish a player for wilfully handling the ball, it's there to ensure that a team who would otherwise have scored a goal aren't penalised for it hitting an opponent's hand, which can't be used outfield in the game of football. It's not really about whether someone sticks their arm out or whether they have time to get out of the way - if I take a cannon of a shot that's 100% headed for goal and it strikes a hand (unintentionally) on the way and deflects wide, by your logic should that just be a corner and not be a pen? Because the defender didn't know anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Haaland looks like Vigo the Carpathian from Ghostbusters 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, Villatillidie95 said: Thor scores 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Shame Arsenal didn't have as much fight while the ball was in play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 City giving loads a love to Michael Oliver??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted April 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2023 just tuned in for the AFTV live reaction. i've missed arsenal banter season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, est1874 said: Am sure he'll rise again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: There has seemed to be a trend in recent weeks that if the player is on their way to ground, handball just doesn't count. I get the logic if it's accidental and doesn't prevent the opposition playing as well, but this one, he's handballed it 3 times Stopped Ings running onto it in the box and seemingly moved his hand towards the ball. Absolutley no idea what's the rule anymore tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, est1874 said: In theory it shouldn't matter whether he meant to or not, whether he could do anything about it or not. At its essence, the handball rule isn't there to vilify or punish a player for wilfully handling the ball, it's there to ensure that a team who would otherwise have scored a goal aren't penalised for it hitting an opponent's hand, which can't be used outfield in the game of football. It's not really about whether someone sticks their arm out or whether they have time to get out of the way - if I take a cannon of a shot that's 100% headed for goal and it strikes a hand (unintentionally) on the way and deflects wide, by your logic should that just be a corner and not be a pen? Because the defender didn't know anything about it. No, denying a goal with your arm will always be a penalty but that is not the situation being discussed from the Liverpool game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 26, 2023 Moderator Share Posted April 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This must sting for Jesus.... I can imagine he's feeling cross. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, LondonLax said: No, denying a goal with your arm will always be a penalty but that is not the situation being discussed from the Liverpool game. Touché. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: This though Is he saying that if West ham were playing utd then West ham get that decision? **** behave, hard done by man utd, shit like that doesn't help, every fan in the league feels hard done by and them lot don't know they're born If that was at old Trafford or anfield in favour of the home team that's a pen, all day long and that's why you can moan about what the rule is or isn't but that's the main problem, certain teams get that decision while others don't, Liverpool and utd get that penalty, it's that simple and that's why it's bullshit There's every danger Fernandes Salah and kane get a penalty for the tackle on Watkins last night and you can say that bollocks and just villa bias but we've all seen them get penalties for less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, villa4europe said: Is he saying that if West ham were playing utd then West ham get that decision? **** behave, hard done by man utd, shit like that doesn't help, every fan in the league feels hard done by and them lot don't know they're born If that was at old Trafford or anfield in favour of the home team that's a pen, all day long and that's why you can moan about what the rule is or isn't but that's the main problem, certain teams get that decision while others don't, Liverpool and utd get that penalty, it's that simple and that's why it's bullshit There's every danger Fernandes Salah and kane get a penalty for the tackle on Watkins last night and you can say that bollocks and just villa bias but we've all seen them get penalties for less Agree. Kane got a pen against us for running into Cash when he was sliding next to him FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Arm in a unnatural position a load of bollocks too. Rule made up by people who have never played the game. Players shouldn't have to jump like peguins in the area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 26, 2023 Moderator Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: I can imagine he's feeling cross. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2023 34 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Yeah I don't get how this is onside, even with White's foot The lines are straight on the pitch at this angle too You can't even see his foot! Can't call it from this photo. We need the angle they used, with proof of the frame used in relation to the ball being kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, villa4europe said: There's every danger Fernandes Salah and kane get a penalty for the tackle on Watkins last night and you can say that bollocks and just villa bias but we've all seen them get penalties for less Not just a danger, that’s 100% guaranteed a penalty for Man Utd or Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Haaland gives me these vibes with his hair down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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