Tom13 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Did he? Did have consecutive starts under Steve Bruce. But that's about it. He started a few under Smith post lockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 minute ago, MWARLEY2 said: The only thing that matters about Duran is does Unai want him in the squad next year or not. i suspect not. So he can go on loan to the championship and learn his trade . I suspect even Archer will struggle to get into a match day squad next season and he is miles ahead in development. Jhon is a big big talent. But rather than buy a technical potential superstar they bought a physical potential superstar. Duran just looks like keinan davis in the way he plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Villa win a pivotal game in the hunt for European football and in true VT fashion a poster chooses negativity. Well done VT. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 I’ll be very disappointed if we don’t give Archer a chance - far ahead of Duran from what I’ve seen (albeit not too much of Duran) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) I suspect in a couple of years we will look back on some of the negativity in here and laugh. From my side I’ll give the teenage prospect who has moved continents twice in a few months a bit more time under the tutelage of our world class manager before I write him off. Even as ‘needing a loan’ - let’s see how he looks at the end of the summer and let Emery judge, rather than in his first four months in the country getting occasional minutes here and there. Edit: and that’s as someone who thinks Archer is brilliant, ahead of Duran in development and should be given a shot in our squad next season. Edited May 13, 2023 by Adam2003 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Was a very difficult half for him to be involved in. One slip didn't help. No where near as bad as some suggest. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) A lot of overreactions in this thread. He's been criticised for not running around like a mad man... come on, Stevie G is gone now, we're a grown up club again. The manager has told them what shape to keep. I didn't see him doing anything untoward in that respect. I trust that Unai is giving him game time because he sees some potential there. I remember people tearing into Dougie Luiz, Ramsey, even Grealish back in the day ... too lightweight, nothing special, overhyped, lazy, bla bla ... it's all a part of the development curve. He's very young. I like his attitude, give him a chance. Edited May 13, 2023 by KentVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tom13 said: He started a few under Smith post lockdown. So a couple of starts is enough to judge then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 I don't think there's anyone writing him off in the long term, and it's no gotcha that in 2 or 3 years he might come good. I'm sure we all hope he does. But he's not there yet, nowhere close, and we're very lucky that Watkins hasn't missed games because going half a season with a kid a mile off the pace as our second option was a very risky move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Pinebro said: So a couple of starts is enough to judge then? Well no not in my opinion but my point is that there's even less of a sample size to judge Duran on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Guess some folks need a good moan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Just now, Tom13 said: Well no not in my opinion but my point is that there's even less of a sample size to judge Duran on. But we can't throw him in from the start when he doesn't look ready. Find him a loan in the championship and let's go from there and see how he develops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Newry_Villan said: Guess some folks need a good moan Moaning or just stating their opinion ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Pinebro said: But we can't throw him in from the start when he doesn't look ready. Find him a loan in the championship and let's go from there and see how he develops. My view is if he is as bad as some are starting to make out in here - Emery wouldn't even be giving him any minutes at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 We've obviously signed him for potential but he looks so raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 He's a teenager. He needs time and experience of the league and our style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 You can see that he has all of the necessary attributes to be effective and he is absolutely massive! He could easily be our main man in a few years. He’s only just turned 19! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted May 13, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, DCJonah said: We've obviously signed him for potential but he looks so raw. I expect we'll see a few more of this type of signing too. We either get them in early for £15-20m and see if we can develop them, or let someone else do it and then pay £40-60m for them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, M_Afro said: You can see that he has all of the necessary attributes to be effective and he is absolutely massive! He could easily be our main man in a few years. He’s only just turned 19! Can say the same thing about Keinan Davis. Just like Davis he will need to be able to score goals if he's gonna make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Looked uninterested in pressing out of possession, don’t know if that was under instruction but I suspect not. Difficult for him to have much of an impact with the ball as we conceded more and more possession as the half went on but I’d have liked to have seen a bit more from him without the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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