Lee Kang-in

[Zhan_Zhuang]

3 minutes ago, SecretVillaScout said:

Him going away for military service for 2 years is worrying tho.
We need Korea to win a world cup then he will be able to bypass it. 

If this is true surely we'd be mad to sign him...

[SecretVillaScout]

2 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said:

If this is true surely we'd be mad to sign him...

[Kiwivillan]

Is he the Korean Trézéguet?

[Zhan_Zhuang]

28 minutes ago, SecretVillaScout said:

I suppose he could agree to sign for us on a four-year contract and defer his conscription until he is 26 years old.

[HanoiVillan]

41 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said:

I suppose he could agree to sign for us on a four-year contract and defer his conscription until he is 26 years old.

That's true, though then you have no hope of a sale. For the military service reason alone I don't see this one happening whatever that outlet claims, but we'll see. 

[The_Steve]

There’s exemption if they win the Asian Games too meaning he would only need to about 4-6 weeks of training. 

[uptoyou]

According to Korea's Military Service law, He can postpone his military service until the age of 37.

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Article 149 (Management of Emigrants, etc.)
(1)    In cases where any person liable for military service who has continuously resided abroad or his parents fall under any of the following subparagraphs before he reaches 25 years of age, he shall be deemed to have obtained permission for overseas travel up to 37 years of age: <Amended by Presidential Decree No. 22286, Jul. 21, 2010; Decree No. 23305, Nov. 23, 2011>
1.    Where the principal or his parents obtain permanent resident status (excluding conditional permanent resident status) in a foreign country, or he or they obtain indefinite stay status or long-term stay status of not less than five years in a country that does not enforce a permanent resident status system and continuously reside abroad;
2.    Where the principal or his parents obtain stay status as special permanent resident or permanent resident in Japan and continuously reside abroad;
3.    Where the principal continuously resides together with his parents in a foreign country after he was born in such foreign country and has obtained the foreign country's nationality or citizenship;
4.    Where the principal or his parents emigrate to any foreign country in accordance with the Emigration Act and continuously reside abroad;
5.    Where the principal departs from the Republic of Korea with his parent who are not a resident employee before his age of 18 and continuously reside

Edited April 20, 2023 by uptoyou

[SecretVillaScout]

21 minutes ago, uptoyou said:

According to Korea's Military Service law, He can postpone his military service until the age of 37.

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Article 149 (Management of Emigrants, etc.)
(1)    In cases where any person liable for military service who has continuously resided abroad or his parents fall under any of the following subparagraphs before he reaches 25 years of age, he shall be deemed to have obtained permission for overseas travel up to 37 years of age: <Amended by Presidential Decree No. 22286, Jul. 21, 2010; Decree No. 23305, Nov. 23, 2011>
1.    Where the principal or his parents obtain permanent resident status (excluding conditional permanent resident status) in a foreign country, or he or they obtain indefinite stay status or long-term stay status of not less than five years in a country that does not enforce a permanent resident status system and continuously reside abroad;
2.    Where the principal or his parents obtain stay status as special permanent resident or permanent resident in Japan and continuously reside abroad;
3.    Where the principal continuously resides together with his parents in a foreign country after he was born in such foreign country and has obtained the foreign country's nationality or citizenship;
4.    Where the principal or his parents emigrate to any foreign country in accordance with the Emigration Act and continuously reside abroad;
5.    Where the principal departs from the Republic of Korea with his parent who are not a resident employee before his age of 18 and continuously reside

Could potentially have Spanish citizenship that stops him from going. 

[Wes]

I think this would be a really solid signing, so I hope it's true. This is a signing that if Brighton made every other fan of every other Premier League team would be saying "why weren't we in for him for that fee?".

Let's break down who he is, and what Lee Kang-In would bring to us.

 

Firstly, lets look at how we currently set up, with the assumption that this is how Emery wants to setup going forward.
We currently line up in a base 4-4-2, that can morph in to a 6-2-2 out of possession shape and a 4-2-2-2 in possession with the two wide midfielders moving infield in a more advanced position. The right sided of the two forward players is typically either an attacking midfielder, whose role is to drop deeper to create link up play with the midfield, or a hybrid winger, who is tasked with stretching play by playing out towards the right wing.

The wide midfield roles and the right sided forward (accompanying Watkins) share some similiarites. They are one of the three main attacking threats alongside Watkins (the other being the advanced Left Back in Emery's system). They also share similar characteristics. They must be hard-working, be good technically, and perhaps most key of all - good progressors of the ball vertically, either via dribbling (i.e. Ramsey) or passing (i.e. Buendia).

Lee is definitely one of the former. He's very left footed. He excels at ball control and progression via dribbling. He is very press-resistant. Physically he is incredibly agile, capable of swift changes of direction and rapid acceleration, without being out and out fast in terms of overall pace, although he is fast enough. He's tenacious too - he doesn't shay away from the physical side of the game.

He is elite at getting past an opposing player. I don't use that term flippantly. He is one of the best in La Liga at this. His success rate suggests that more of ten than not he will beat the player he's up against - more likely than Vinicius Junior, Rodrygo, Nico Williams and Samuel Chukwueze (if you look purely at the percentages - those four other players attempt way more than Lee does, mostly because they are able to because they play in far better teams).

But look at those last two names - Williams and Chukwueze. Two names we have already been strongly linked with. Two players who are also excelling at progressing with the ball via take-ons. Perdro Goncalves is another whose statistics excel here. Guendouzi is an excellent Progressive Passer of the ball. My theory is if you want to look at potential targets for this summer, looking at progressive carries and/or passes for these three supporting/attacking positions is going to be a good start. He will be able to draw players in to him, and escape, freeing up space for others to attack. We've seen already this season that Emery likes drawing opponents out of their shape, to make room for others to thrive.

In terms of profile of player, I think Lee could play any of these roles - left or right of midfield, moving in to those inside midfield advanced positions or as we've seen Buendia of late in that second striker position - dropping from that position to link up play - when Emery wants to play that way. He's done that for Mallorca.

He's a good set piece taker, which just opens up more options for us.

He's got pedigree. At the U-20 world championships in 2019 he won the Golden Ball as player of the tournament - ahead of players like Haaland who scored 9 goals in 3 games.

In terms of ability to settle in, he's been in Spain since 2011 (when he signed for Valencia's youth system) so he'll be able to communicate efficiently with the Spanish contingent in both the coaching and playing staff. I have no knowledge on how good his English is.

 

Is he the finished article? Absolutely not, but at 22 (birthday in February) you wouldn't really expect him to be. He's not one, yet, for the starting eleven, but he is deserving of a place in the match day squad at the very least.

 

So in Summary:

• Fits the preferred age profile of new signings.
• The fee is completely reasonable.
• Wages are likely to be very reasonable too - estimation is that he's currently on less than £5k a week.
• Versatile enough to play in any of three of our supporting attacking positions.
• Excels at ball retention and progression - areas I think we are targeting specifically in this window.

Should he sign, I think he would initially be a backup in the wide left midfield role. Typically it has more licence to get forward than the right side in Emery's system. Also seems like it would be easier to communicate with Moreno on that left side with regards defensive duties. But he has enough positives to his game, at still such a young age, that it's precisely the kind of low-risk, high-reward signing that we should be trying for. It won't stop us from other targets because his versatility means he would be a great person to have on the bench and/or to cover injuries anyway.

[Mazrim]

Intriguing player but his numbers are a little concerning. Not a massive amount of goals / assists at senior level.
I know it doesn't tell a whole story and a good manager can see beyond the story so far, still...

[brummybloke]

34 minutes ago, Mazrim said:

Intriguing player but his numbers are a little concerning. Not a massive amount of goals / assists at senior level.
I know it doesn't tell a whole story and a good manager can see beyond the story so far, still...

If you look at bundias numbers , they also don't look great bearing in mind the position he plays. 

But we are a team now, as long as each player follows instructions and makes the team stronger then someone's numbers improve in the team.

[MWARLEY2]

29 minutes ago, brummybloke said:

If you look at bundias numbers , they also don't look great bearing in mind the position he plays. 

But we are a team now, as long as each player follows instructions and makes the team stronger then someone's numbers improve in the team.

I cannot remember exactly but grealish numbers 5 years ago werent brilliant . 

I think we need to forget everything we know . If Emery wants him then he can see what he will bring to the team. 

[The_Steve]

2 hours ago, Mazrim said:

Intriguing player but his numbers are a little concerning. Not a massive amount of goals / assists at senior level.
I know it doesn't tell a whole story and a good manager can see beyond the story so far, still...

He's got a great set piece on him. Dribbles a lot and draws a lot of fouls. Mainly plays as a 10 for Mallorca this season but plays across either wing. He's exactly the kind of player I hope we sign.

[gwi1890]

2 hours ago, Mazrim said:

Intriguing player but his numbers are a little concerning. Not a massive amount of goals / assists at senior level.
I know it doesn't tell a whole story and a good manager can see beyond the story so far, still...

Mallorca aren’t really a high scoring team.

[villan-scott]

6 hours ago, uptoyou said:

According to Korea's Military Service law, He can postpone his military service until the age of 37.

------------

Article 149 (Management of Emigrants, etc.)
(1)    In cases where any person liable for military service who has continuously resided abroad or his parents fall under any of the following subparagraphs before he reaches 25 years of age, he shall be deemed to have obtained permission for overseas travel up to 37 years of age: <Amended by Presidential Decree No. 22286, Jul. 21, 2010; Decree No. 23305, Nov. 23, 2011>
1.    Where the principal or his parents obtain permanent resident status (excluding conditional permanent resident status) in a foreign country, or he or they obtain indefinite stay status or long-term stay status of not less than five years in a country that does not enforce a permanent resident status system and continuously reside abroad;
2.    Where the principal or his parents obtain stay status as special permanent resident or permanent resident in Japan and continuously reside abroad;
3.    Where the principal continuously resides together with his parents in a foreign country after he was born in such foreign country and has obtained the foreign country's nationality or citizenship;
4.    Where the principal or his parents emigrate to any foreign country in accordance with the Emigration Act and continuously reside abroad;
5.    Where the principal departs from the Republic of Korea with his parent who are not a resident employee before his age of 18 and continuously reside

And this is why I love Villa Talk. Where else could I read up on Korean Military Service, transfer speculation and fish puns. 

[DaveAV1]

With regards to his military service and possible get-a rounds, I’m sure that if we want him, the club will employ some very expensive, and similarly effective, lawyers to explore all the possible options. 

[SecretVillaScout]

He's massively overperforming  his xG, xA, xD, xP, xG, xQ, & xC
If he can keep this up, South Korea military have got an hell of a solider!

Edited April 20, 2023 by SecretVillaScout

[punkymonkey666]

6 hours ago, Wes said:

I think this would be a really solid signing, so I hope it's true. This is a signing that if Brighton made every other fan of every other Premier League team would be saying "why weren't we in for him for that fee?".

Let's break down who he is, and what Lee Kang-In would bring to us.

 

Firstly, lets look at how we currently set up, with the assumption that this is how Emery wants to setup going forward.
We currently line up in a base 4-4-2, that can morph in to a 6-2-2 out of possession shape and a 4-2-2-2 in possession with the two wide midfielders moving infield in a more advanced position. The right sided of the two forward players is typically either an attacking midfielder, whose role is to drop deeper to create link up play with the midfield, or a hybrid winger, who is tasked with stretching play by playing out towards the right wing.

The wide midfield roles and the right sided forward (accompanying Watkins) share some similiarites. They are one of the three main attacking threats alongside Watkins (the other being the advanced Left Back in Emery's system). They also share similar characteristics. They must be hard-working, be good technically, and perhaps most key of all - good progressors of the ball vertically, either via dribbling (i.e. Ramsey) or passing (i.e. Buendia).

Lee is definitely one of the former. He's very left footed. He excels at ball control and progression via dribbling. He is very press-resistant. Physically he is incredibly agile, capable of swift changes of direction and rapid acceleration, without being out and out fast in terms of overall pace, although he is fast enough. He's tenacious too - he doesn't shay away from the physical side of the game.

He is elite at getting past an opposing player. I don't use that term flippantly. He is one of the best in La Liga at this. His success rate suggests that more of ten than not he will beat the player he's up against - more likely than Vinicius Junior, Rodrygo, Nico Williams and Samuel Chukwueze (if you look purely at the percentages - those four other players attempt way more than Lee does, mostly because they are able to because they play in far better teams).

But look at those last two names - Williams and Chukwueze. Two names we have already been strongly linked with. Two players who are also excelling at progressing with the ball via take-ons. Perdro Goncalves is another whose statistics excel here. Guendouzi is an excellent Progressive Passer of the ball. My theory is if you want to look at potential targets for this summer, looking at progressive carries and/or passes for these three supporting/attacking positions is going to be a good start. He will be able to draw players in to him, and escape, freeing up space for others to attack. We've seen already this season that Emery likes drawing opponents out of their shape, to make room for others to thrive.

In terms of profile of player, I think Lee could play any of these roles - left or right of midfield, moving in to those inside midfield advanced positions or as we've seen Buendia of late in that second striker position - dropping from that position to link up play - when Emery wants to play that way. He's done that for Mallorca.

He's a good set piece taker, which just opens up more options for us.

He's got pedigree. At the U-20 world championships in 2019 he won the Golden Ball as player of the tournament - ahead of players like Haaland who scored 9 goals in 3 games.

In terms of ability to settle in, he's been in Spain since 2011 (when he signed for Valencia's youth system) so he'll be able to communicate efficiently with the Spanish contingent in both the coaching and playing staff. I have no knowledge on how good his English is.

 

Is he the finished article? Absolutely not, but at 22 (birthday in February) you wouldn't really expect him to be. He's not one, yet, for the starting eleven, but he is deserving of a place in the match day squad at the very least.

 

So in Summary:

• Fits the preferred age profile of new signings.
• The fee is completely reasonable.
• Wages are likely to be very reasonable too - estimation is that he's currently on less than £5k a week.
• Versatile enough to play in any of three of our supporting attacking positions.
• Excels at ball retention and progression - areas I think we are targeting specifically in this window.

Should he sign, I think he would initially be a backup in the wide left midfield role. Typically it has more licence to get forward than the right side in Emery's system. Also seems like it would be easier to communicate with Moreno on that left side with regards defensive duties. But he has enough positives to his game, at still such a young age, that it's precisely the kind of low-risk, high-reward signing that we should be trying for. It won't stop us from other targets because his versatility means he would be a great person to have on the bench and/or to cover injuries anyway.

[sidcow]

16 hours ago, punkymonkey666 said:

I read a couple of lines then moved on to the next post

It's 2023. We have the attention span of a gnat

 

[VillaChris]

Scored v Getafe.